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by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 174
Views: 2049

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Ceisiwr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:00 pm Y. Karunadasa on “derived rupa” in his book on the Abhidhamma (worth a read everyone).
The above sounds wrong because all of the terms in the 2nd to 7th conditions in Dependent Origination are 'defilement-neutral'. In other words, a "clinging-form" cannot exist with neutral nama.
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is the eye?
Replies: 13
Views: 56

Re: What is the eye?

Dependent on eye & forms, eye-consciousness arises [similarly with the rest of the six senses]. The meeting of the three is contact. With contact as a requisite condition, there is feeling. https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.018.than.html Whatever the eye is, the sutta above says consci...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:11 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Vibhanga: How is kayanupassana practised in 1st jhana ???
Replies: 3
Views: 28

Re: Vibhanga: How is kayanupassana practised in 1st jhana ???

SarathW wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:35 am Hi DD
You have to be familiar with the Javana process (17 thought moments) of Jhana, before you understand this.
Hi SarathW
You have to be able to explain the Javana process (17 thought moments) of Jhana, before you post about this. :thanks:
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:46 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: ānantarika-kamma?: "parenticide" knowingly or unknowingly; or mistakenly
Replies: 1
Views: 19

Re: ānantarika-kamma?: "parenticide" knowingly or unknowingly; or mistakenly

i told my mother she must decide for herself whether or not to take a Covid-19 vaccine :meditate:
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Poll: Abhidhamma and Theravada.
Replies: 31
Views: 352

Re: Poll: Abhidhamma and Theravada.

SarathW wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:30 am I think Visuddhimagga is not part of the Tipitaka.
So I have no problem people reject it even though I believe it is authentic.
To do a controlled demolition of a building, is it best to place the explosives inside the building or outside the building? :shrug:
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Poll: Abhidhamma and Theravada.
Replies: 31
Views: 352

Re: Poll: Abhidhamma and Theravada.

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by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sutta vs Abhidhamma discrepancies
Replies: 5
Views: 54

Re: Sutta vs Abhidhamma discrepancies

You have to be familiar with the 17 thought moments, specially the Javana Citta. :focus: As I pointed out before, you do not have the practical experience of Satipathana. Take care with speech. :thanks: Abhidhamma (Vb 6) appears to exclude "rupa" from the 4th condition of dependent origination Here...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sutta vs Abhidhamma discrepancies
Replies: 5
Views: 54

Re: Sutta vs Abhidhamma discrepancies

Abhidhamma appears to also engage in Nagarjunism, where a cause is regarded as an effect and an effect regarded as a cause, as follows: 2.4. The Mutuality Tetrad PTS cs 246 With ignorance as condition there is a (volitional) process, also with a (volitional) process as condition there is ignorance, ...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sutta vs Abhidhamma discrepancies
Replies: 5
Views: 54

Sutta vs Abhidhamma discrepancies

dear DW forum what we have discovered so far: 1. Abhidhamma ( Vb 4 ) appears to say craving alone is the origination (samudaya) of suffering (rather than craving & becoming in SN 56.11 and all twelve conditions of dependent origination in AN 3.61) 2. Abhidhamma ( Vb 4 ) appears to not summarize all ...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:02 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: What is the 7th consciousness in Abhidhamma ???
Replies: 4
Views: 71

Re: What is the 7th consciousness in Abhidhamma ???

Without the Pali word I can't be certain of my answer. Perhaps this is referring to Citta and Cetasika. The Pali is: 986. Tattha katame satta phassā? Cakkhusamphasso, sotasamphasso, ghānasamphasso, jivhāsamphasso, kāyasamphasso, manodhātu samphasso, manoviññāṇadhātu samphasso – ime vuccanti ‘‘satta...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is your strategy for attaining Sotapattimagga & phala?
Replies: 30
Views: 450

Re: What is your strategy for attaining Sotapattimagga & phala?

Irrelevant. It is relevant. The Buddha taught to use chanda to abandon unwholesome states, which include manufacturing the superstition of a "self" that will attain stream-entry. Bhikkhu Buddhadasa correctly said: As for samadhi, an empty mind is the supreme samadhi, the supremely focused firmness ...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:52 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Vibhanga: How is kayanupassana practised in 1st jhana ???
Replies: 3
Views: 28

Vibhanga: How is kayanupassana practised in 1st jhana ???

Dear Abhidhamma expert/s The Vibhanga appears to say, consistent with Sutta, the experience of the 1st jhana only has five factors, namely: 12.2. Analysis According to Abhidhamma 12.2.1. Skilful Dhammas Characteristic of the Plane of Form The four jhānas are: First jhāna, second jhāna, third jhāna, ...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating "satipaṭṭhānānaṁ" in dative case ???
Replies: 14
Views: 275

Re: Translating "satipaṭṭhānānaṁ" in dative case ???

The pericope "samudayañca atthaṅgamañca desessāmi" is preceded by a genitive, not a dative. Because the plural forms of the genitive and dative are identical, you need to look for "samudayam" etc. corresponding to something in the singular. dukkhassa samudayañca atthaṅgamañca desessāmi This constru...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:33 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is your strategy for attaining Sotapattimagga & phala?
Replies: 30
Views: 450

Re: What is your strategy for attaining Sotapattimagga & phala?

It seems by developing zeal (chanda) concentration can be attained . They develop the basis of psychic power that has immersion due to enthusiasm , and active effort. Chandasamādhi padhānasaṅkhārasamannāgataṁ iddhipādaṁ bhāveti https://suttacentral.net/an3.156-162/en/sujato Chanda certainly leads t...
by DooDoot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating "satipaṭṭhānānaṁ" in dative case ???
Replies: 14
Views: 275

Re: Translating "satipaṭṭhānānaṁ" in dative case ???

Coëmgenu wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:27 am Reading satipaṭṭhānānaṁ as in the dative is a horrendous grammatical distortion that destroys the meaning of the Pāli sentence.
Sure. We agreed on this.