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by DooDoot
Sat May 08, 2021 10:00 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????
Replies: 5
Views: 69

Re: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????

Sam Vara wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:08 am I think it does apply to the whole sentence; the body is to be seen as abhisaṅkhataṁ abhisañcetayitaṁ , as well as something to be felt. That's what makes most sense in this case.
Thank you SV. :bow:
by DooDoot
Sat May 08, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoherence (
Replies: 137
Views: 1374

Re: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoheren

Ratnakar wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 1:54 am So one does observing a&p of 5 aggregates in access, doesn't one?
Certainly & very clearly. However, this remains not sufficient to uproot the underlying tendencies to defilement. Regards
by DooDoot
Sat May 08, 2021 9:44 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Persons of the Path and the Paramis
Replies: 1
Views: 45

Re: Persons of the Path and the Paramis

Theravada teachings on the pāramīs can be found in late canonical books and post-canonical commentaries. Theravada commentator Dhammapala describes them as noble qualities usually associated with bodhisattvas. The Theravādin teachings on the pāramīs can be found in canonical books (Jataka tales, Ap...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoherence (
Replies: 137
Views: 1374

Re: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoheren

So where does one do vippassana in access or in jhana ? Both and after. However, the vipassana in jhana will be limited to the jhana itself. In other words, it won't be vipassana into the breathing, or vipassana of dependent origination, or vipassana of each of the five aggregates rising & falling,...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 8:02 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????
Replies: 5
Views: 69

Re: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????

Thank you Samvara. Possibly we have discussed this matter before.

Why does the datthabam only apply to only the vedaniyam rather than to the whole sentence?

I have read translations where the “should be” applies to the entire sentence.

Thanks
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 7:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Rapture in 7 factors of enlightenment
Replies: 3
Views: 86

Re: Rapture in 7 factors of enlightenment

Rapture can be underlying, which maintains the enjoyment of meditation, and rapture can also be the dominant meditation object, such in the 5th stage of anapanasati or in 1st and 2nd jhana. The rapture will fade away with the 6th stage of anapanasati however an underlying rapture will be there until...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 7:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoherence (
Replies: 137
Views: 1374

Re: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoheren

So you argued that it's not jhana but access that buddha was talking about, didn't you? Do you think that access alone is enough to attain enlightenment ? I recall referring to stream-entry and once-returner, which are levels of enlightenment based on access concentration. But they are not full enl...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 5:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What Ven.Ajahn Chah meant by "The Timeless Buddha"
Replies: 26
Views: 383

Re: What Ven.Ajahn Chah meant by "The Timeless Buddha"

As I understand the Teaching explained by the Blessed One, a monk with no more effluents, on the break-up of the body, is annihilated, perishes, & does not exist after death." If the physical body is there in the reality, if all are not a projection on the mind, what's wrong in above statement? Wha...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 4:58 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoherence (
Replies: 137
Views: 1374

Re: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoheren

These are basic words that you should really know No. Not at all. The Buddha never used it. There were no "periscopes" when the Buddha was alive. As for your recent postings on this forum, they appear to lack Theravada content. Theravada instructs its followers to control the mind. :focus: and what...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 4:46 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Rapture in 7 factors of enlightenment
Replies: 3
Views: 86

Re: Rapture in 7 factors of enlightenment

It is rapture arising from seeing the truth in dhammavicaya (2nd factor). It is not the rapture of jhana (6th factor). While a higher level, due to the direct seeing of dhammavicaya, it is similar to the rapture below: Faith is a vital condition for joy. saddhūpanisaṁ pāmojjaṁ, Joy is a vital condit...
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 4:41 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????
Replies: 5
Views: 69

Re: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????

Also, in SN 12.37 & SN 35.145, the associated terms abhisaṅkhataṁ & abhisañcetayitaṁ appear to be accusative past participles. What about vedaniyaṁ? Vedaniyaṁ appears to be accusative but not necessarily a past participle. Is this so?

Thank you :thanks:
by DooDoot
Fri May 07, 2021 4:36 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????
Replies: 5
Views: 69

The meaning of "vedaniyaṁ" ????

Dear Pali gurus What is the meaning or etymology of "vedaniyaṁ"? It appears this term is only found thrice in the suttas, namely, SN 12.37, SN 35.145 and AN 3.34. The quite useful Wisdom Library says: Vedanīya (वेदनीय, “experience-giving”) or Vedanīyakarma refers to one of the eight types of karma, ...
by DooDoot
Thu May 06, 2021 5:05 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right livelihood in entertainment question
Replies: 13
Views: 225

Re: Right livelihood in entertainment question

We must be very careful in judging people based on their job. the suttas refer to wrong livelihood in many places The West makes too much ado about sex, especially if no cheating or violence is going on (then it's even much more serious). Do not judge porn stars. The above is called the " equanimit...
by DooDoot
Thu May 06, 2021 4:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoherence (
Replies: 137
Views: 1374

Re: suttas where mind and body (31 body parts of meditator) dichotomy is incontrovertible, exposing Abhidhamma incoheren

That's what I'm not so sure about. doesn't matter what u say; its not jhana. The dye is already cast i've offered an alternative explanation in which what differentiates vitakka-vicara as "skillful thoughts" from vitakka-vicara as a jhana factor is the presence of strong piti-sukha. its not an "alt...
by DooDoot
Wed May 05, 2021 11:51 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right livelihood in entertainment question
Replies: 13
Views: 225

Re: Right livelihood in entertainment question

That's another categorical statement the Buddha never made. There many people in the Buddha's orbits who had jobs involving wrong livelihood (including prostitutes and courtesans) who changed their ways and reached noble attainments. When a prostitute became a bhikkhuni, she ceased to be a prostitu...