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by BrokenBones
Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:22 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

Becauaae I merge with feeling or I became feeling is what common folk address... You're not fooling anyone you know 😉 Logically, if you deny that it is possible to dissolve the subject-object distinction, you must assert a permanent subject. The 'logic' escapes me... and I'm not denying the possibi...
by BrokenBones
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:43 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

What does that mean? Sorry i no have christian background Come now, you know enough. Why are you talking about merging and 'becoming feeling'? Such talk and 'God' the Great Almighty, The Great Oneness or the Singularity can't be far behind... we could call it... The Great Perception. Becauaae I mer...
by BrokenBones
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Samsara must have an end?
Replies: 28
Views: 242

Re: Samsara must have an end?

Sometimes, the best answer is not to ask the question in the first place.
by BrokenBones
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The definition of 'jhana-lite' and 'jhana-heavy', and hopefully a better way to differentiate
Replies: 15
Views: 274

Re: The definition of 'jhana-lite' and 'jhana-heavy', and hopefully a better way to differentiate

If someone reads this simile, and genuinely thinks the Buddha isn't talking about the body we have. They are being dishonest and they very well know that. This is from the Theragatha : Lahuko vata me kāyo phuṭṭho ca pītisukhena vipulena Tūlamiva eritaṃ mālutena pilavatīva me kāyo'ti . How light my ...
by BrokenBones
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:43 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

when u become feeling and feeling become you or only when there is feeling alone and u take feeling as you people say merged because prior to jhana they perceive they are different from feeling Is this point where you receive the Ten Commandments? What does that mean? Sorry i no have christian back...
by BrokenBones
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:27 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

Wondering if with say experiencing peace or serenity or tranquility and while watching the nice objects which may arise someday, concentration therefore starts to develop with the fascination including sometimes merging with the peaceful object. one could project onto that experience as jhana but w...
by BrokenBones
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:49 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

Wondering if with say experiencing peace or serenity or tranquility and while watching the nice objects which may arise someday, concentration therefore starts to develop with the fascination including sometimes merging with the peaceful object. one could project onto that experience as jhana but w...
by BrokenBones
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The definition of 'jhana-lite' and 'jhana-heavy', and hopefully a better way to differentiate
Replies: 15
Views: 274

Re: The definition of 'jhana-lite' and 'jhana-heavy', and hopefully a better way to differentiate

It would be strongly advisable not to use the term 'Jhana lite' to denigrate those who place primacy on the Buddha's words in the EBT suttas over the redefinition and reinterpretation of Buddhists who came hundreds of years later in late Abhidhamma and Visuddhimagga. This is tantamount to slanderin...
by BrokenBones
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.
Replies: 49
Views: 780

Re: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.

.. If you are chilly then the warmth from a fireplace is agreeable, likeable thus sensual pleasure. We cling to that warmth till we are warm, it is escape from dukkha using sensual pleasure. Postulate: Near fireplace when you are warmed not chilly anymore(escaped from dukkha via sensual pleasure) y...
by BrokenBones
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:38 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

Well, it was that too. Obviously I don't recognise Jhana lite as a valid method of practice. Mostly, it seems to me, its concocted by western lay converts. The easiest way to Jhana is, after all, to simply redefine them ;) Do you mean like redefining suttas and Pali words to fit into a Brahmanical ...
by BrokenBones
Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:12 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Using Lite Jhana to enter Deep Jhana?

I've been gone for 6 years and the Dhamma Wheel is still rolling :woohoo: Regardless of all the controversy and any other claims, it seems agreed upon that all the jhana states (be it Leigh Brasington's Lite Jhanas, Pa-Auk's Visuddhimagga Jhanas or Bhante G.'s Jhanas which seem to be somewhere in t...
by BrokenBones
Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.
Replies: 49
Views: 780

Re: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.

Until I get my own jhana it is all theory. All I know comes from reading, listening, and thinking about how it all comes together. My attempts at meditation have been shallow. Once I finally get jhana things should really start clicking along. Gotcha... reading, listening and thinking sounds good t...
by BrokenBones
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.
Replies: 49
Views: 780

Re: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.

After leaving jhana the hindrances remain suppressed for a time afterwards. The stronger the jhana the longer this effect lasts. The mind is still unusually concentrated and able to examine things clearly. Rather than just examining thoughts and emotions you can go back to the tendencies for them t...
by BrokenBones
Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.
Replies: 49
Views: 780

Re: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.

One of the issues I see with ' sleeping ' hard jhana is that it seems to be completely seperate from a graduated path. Apparently, one has to reminisce about the experience and retroactively see its rising and passing. Sure, your mind is pretty chilled after your hard jhana experience (a bit like af...
by BrokenBones
Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.
Replies: 49
Views: 780

Re: MN 111 jhana 'lite' vs. jhana 'heavy', sutta vs. vism. 'jhana'.

lite jhana is stepping stone to full hardcore jhana.. everyone dont stop till u attain hardcore jhana... do you want to be brahma of lower level or higher level? Oh dear 🥴 'Hardcore jhana'... the domain of the senseless. because buddha didn't appreciate sense pleasure Exactly... or rather sense des...