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Metta

Birth 24. Saying, "Good, friend," the bhikkhus delighted and rejoiced in the Venerable Sariputta's words. Then they asked him a further question: "But, friend, might there be another way in which a noble disciple is one of right view... and has arrived at this true Dhamma?" — "There might be, frien...

You seem upset. You seem to have little tangible to say on the matter. Reposting an extensive post with a one sentence reply is the indicator of the sphere of nothingness (a sphere of immateriality) in relation to knowledge. After due consideration Unlikely. For example, a child only fluent in arit...

Not much mindfulness going on then with your interpretation of ekaggata (nor any of the other factors). The above appears to be wrong understanding of what mindfulness is. Mindfulness does not mean knowing or insight. The above appears non-sequitur (irrelevant). Also, as already posted, the suttas ...

Indeed... it seems to be a later addition to the teachings 😉 There is very little point in posting unsubstantiated ideas on a Buddhist forum. The Buddha spoke of "right concentration" vs "wrong concentration". "Right concentration" is a jhana supported by "right view", as follows: The Blessed One s...

DooDoot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:33 am

BrokenBones wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:04 am Dead jhana

The suttas do not appear to refer to "dead jhana".

Indeed... it seems to be a later addition to the teachings

Metta

An hour daily? Jhana 'lite'? Where do you get this from? Certainly not from me. There is jhana and there is RIGHT effort... there is also 'mindless' jhana but this was rejected by the Buddha as a dead end. It's to point that: if Leigh Brasington/Bhante Vimalaramsi's students can so quickly/easily r...

There is no need for anyone to be upset :meditate: I'll continue to delude myself with my imperfect meditation and apparently wanting sila and others can anaesthetise themselves with their perfect meditation and sila. If you take the same way of thinking as "jhāna-light"... from meditating an hour ...

"Jhāna-light" believers try to deceive themselves, so that they can pat themselves on the back and say "I've reached jhāna!" Whereas, if they were a bit more patient and would put more effort into their meditation (as well as their precepts and sīla) they would likely actually reach jhāna... There ...

Ok... 'discernment'... read perception... apperception. And if you've experienced any learned skill as a perfectly linear process with no falling away and not having to skilfully deal with setbacks... good on you. The Buddha's jhana's aren't sealed rooms which you enter for a period of time in mindl...

[...] Discernment? "Dead jhāna"? "Obliterate mindfulness"? What are you talking about? Leigh Brasington literally says that he's in the "8th jhāna," and that he "drifts into a thought" or that there is a "word" or "sentence," or even that he's "in the middle of some paragraph." The stock sutta pass...

Discernment exists in the fourth jhana. You seem to think that once it's attained then it's a fixed event, skill comes with practice and wobbles in and out the jhana are part of the learning process. Mindfulness is probably praised more frequently than any other characteristic in the suttas. So the ...

'More nonsense' is probably the tritest argument I've come across yet. My posts are indeed lazy... I see no value in trying to convince you of anything. What is the point of your engagement here? :shrug: You: 1. Admit being lazy 2. Admit haven't even read the lengthy link of probably poor scholarsh...

About contemporary teachers, such as Bhante Vimalaramsi and Leigh Brasington, who say they teach "jhāna-light"—and whom at the same time disparage the Visuddhimagga, commentaries and Abhidhamma, the thing is that: What they teach isn't jhāna, but simply neighbourhood-concentration (upacāra-samādhi)...

'More nonsense' is probably the tritest argument I've come across yet. My posts are indeed lazy... I see no value in trying to convince you of anything.

Metta