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- Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:44 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Greetings, What if the mahabhuta are said to be impermanent, subject to destruction, clung to by the mind, etc? Then the rupasanna should not be conflated with the mahabhuta. This topic has become rather unhinged with so many people autistically denying that things exist, independent of their perso...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:07 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
What if the mahabhuta are said to be impermanent, subject to destruction, clung to by the mind, etc?
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:46 am
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
The thing touched is the thing touched. Still a dhamma, for SN 35.68: Wherever, Samiddhi, there is the eye, the visible forms, the visual consciousness and the things perceptible with the visual consciousness, there is a world or a concept of a world. Wherever there is the ear... nose... tongue... ...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:46 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Greetings Alex, You instead are pretending to affirm it, and things can be affirmed only through conceiving. On the contrary, I am merely inferring it, without all the convoluted papanca associated with trying to create an exclusively autistic experience. Arguably, the Buddha accepted (presumably b...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:18 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Greetings, Anyway, there is no tangible without a toucher. Utterly wrong. Do you think your house isn't a tangible thing until you come along and touch it? If so, you've fallen down the same autistic (and I mean this in the sense of "Greek autos ‘self’ + the adjectival suffix - istic ) rabbit ...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:06 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Greetings Alex, The great elements are included in the description of something that is said to arise and cease :shrug: I'll point you back to something correct that Ceisiwr said earlier... In the suttas the 4 elements are concrete nouns. In other words, tangible. They aren’t abstract nouns. That c...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:54 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Greetings Alex, Beyond paticcasamuppada we also have idappaccayata. Unless you can provide some example to substantiate this, this makes it sounds like you've under-estimated, and misunderstood both. Anyway, namarupa is made of nama and rupa, and rupa refers to both the great elements and the form ...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:47 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Greetings, Mahabhuta. Mahabhuta is the pali term for the great elements. Great elements is not a synonym of noumena. It's legitimate for you to think they are the same, but not so legitimate to translate as you like. According to you perhaps, but (at least so far) without any substance to your obje...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:36 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
That the dhammas we experience are individually distinguished from their own side, rather than because the mind makes those divisions. Without the mind conceptualising this compared to that, where is the experience? Dependent origination not only abolishes substance but also essence and so, with th...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:27 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Mahabhuta. Mahabhuta is the pali term for the great elements. Great elements is not a synonym of noumena. It's legitimate for you to think they are the same, but not so legitimate to translate as you like. No, though this may depend on what Pali words your English words are pointing. Mahabhuta and ...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:03 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
Nice to see you back. Hope you are well? Yes, thank you :) How about you? I don’t think it does. The problem with the Phenomenological approach, IMO, is that it suffers the same flaw as the Theravadin one. Namely, it takes essence to be real. I'm not sure to understand. Can you provide an example, ...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:48 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
- Replies: 460
- Views: 10975
Re: There is nothing there, without substance
I'm glad to read you and write to you after a long time :hug: On the central topic I find myself in agreement with Ceisiwr. I'd like to ask Retro: what's the pali term for that which is not a dhamma? What's the pali term for noumena? And also: what about conditionality between the four elements and ...
- Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:48 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: What precisely is the problem with the so-called "three lives" model?
- Replies: 300
- Views: 10343
- Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:12 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Vedanā
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1829
Re: Vedanā
Yes, that's why I also wrote 'to me'.Spiny Norman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:08 pmI wouldn't say they are absent, more like no longer a problem.
- Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:39 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Vedanā
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1829
Re: Vedanā
Whatever, mates.