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by Sam Vara
Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:33 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating "satipaṭṭhānānaṁ" in dative case ???
Replies: 1
Views: 25

Re: Translating "satipaṭṭhānānaṁ" in dative case ???

Dear Pali gurus Can the following sentence be translated in dative case (instead of genitive case)? Catunnaṁ, bhikkhave, satipaṭṭhānānaṁ [dative or genitive] samudayañca atthaṅgamañca desessāmi. https://suttacentral.net/sn47.42/pli/ms If so, what would the translation be? Thank you :thanks: I don't...
by Sam Vara
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How to see sensual pleasures as thron or burning coal?
Replies: 12
Views: 178

Re: How to see sensual pleasures as thron or burning coal?

Dont tell me to imagine that hearing music = falling in to volcono... because it is not... How to really see dangers in sensual pleasures that lead to uprooting the greed for sensual pleasures rather than imagining them to be bad and teaching brain in that way? Far scarier than the metaphor is the ...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:02 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Mysticism in buddhism?
Replies: 11
Views: 243

Re: Mysticism in buddhism?

Gombrich might be a good place to start. In his paper Religious Experience in Early Buddhism (1997), he says that the general western understanding of the Buddha's enlightenment is that it was a mystical experience. He quotes William James on this, who thinks that mystical experiences in various re...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:49 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Mysticism in buddhism?
Replies: 11
Views: 243

Re: Mysticism in buddhism?

Gombrich might be a good place to start. In his paper Religious Experience in Early Buddhism (1997), he says that the general western understanding of the Buddha's enlightenment is that it was a mystical experience. He quotes William James on this, who thinks that mystical experiences in various rel...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

You and your clique haven't clarified anything. You have just strawmanned and run off because the kitchen is too hot for sophists! No, I've not run off, but I think this thread might be in need of an injection of new ideas. Yep. But not from you. Yes, I won't be adding any new ideas unless the tone...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

Accusations! What a non self you are!!! Lol! You can't even clarify or know what you are denying except some rival Hindu concept,which is strawmanned for extra sophistry! I've clarified. So has Coëmgenu. You can't understand, or are pretending not to understand. No worries. You and your clique have...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

Please get your story straight before you press submit. I doubt you even know what you really mean. As you live in modern times,you know what is meant by a self. If you think you haven't got one,then good luck with denying your agency and existence! Please calm down and stop making accusations. I k...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

Nope. Makes no sense except from a strawman atman. Your denying ANY self! And whose doing the denying??????? A clue; yourSELF!!! No, the attan being denied here is not a strawman. Coëmgenu has given you a very good account of it. You might not think it relevant, but that is, I think, what the Buddh...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:22 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

I mean nope,as in your explanation makes no sense. Makes sense to me, and I think to other people. So you mean nope, as in you can't make sense of it. Never mind. What self was the Buddha concerned with? The eternal unchanging substrate within a body? Yep. Common sense shows that one doesn't make s...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

I mean nope,as in your explanation makes no sense. Makes sense to me, and I think to other people. So you mean nope, as in you can't make sense of it. Never mind. What self was the Buddha concerned with? The eternal unchanging substrate within a body? Yep. Common sense shows that one doesn't make s...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Is there any point in meditating for unsecluded laypeople?
Replies: 15
Views: 609

Re: Is there any point in meditating for unsecluded laypeople?

But this implies that the universe is constructed to allow only those with no job or kids the opportunity to "develop supernormal states of non-sensual happiness" Nah! If we consider that the universe is "constructed", then any form of construction would imply some kind of restriction on what could...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

When people are new to Buddhism and neither well-read in the Buddhadhamma nor particularly instructed by the samgha, when the Buddha states that there is no atman to be found in the five aggregates, the neophyte reader, like Vacchagotta, who does not understand why the Buddha says what the Buddha s...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

I've yet to see one clear explanation in all the years I've heard about anatta. And that's further borne out by the number of threads on it. Let's hear your clear explanation then,or you can paste an explanation you think is clear. Of all things that could be the object of any possible experience, ...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Is there any point in meditating for unsecluded laypeople?
Replies: 15
Views: 609

Re: Is there any point in meditating for unsecluded laypeople?

Meditation is an opportunity for a layperson to get to know their mind & rectify faulty behaviours & attitudes. But sure, it is unlikely an ordinary busy layperson will develop supernormal states of non-sensual happiness. But this implies that the universe is constructed to allow only those with no...
by Sam Vara
Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)
Replies: 150
Views: 1033

Re: Atman in Buddhism? (Nikaya)

I've yet to see one clear explanation in all the years I've heard about anatta. And that's further borne out by the number of threads on it. Let's hear your clear explanation then,or you can paste an explanation you think is clear. Of all things that could be the object of any possible experience, ...