Greetings,

SarathW wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:36 am But aren't we craving (mental fermentation) for Nibbana?
Aren't we objectified it thinking it is a place we can go there and happily live hereafter?

How does "craving" and "objectifying" change the nature of nibbana?

There's a lot of muddled thinking going on here.

Metta,
Paul.

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Cool-team wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:37 am Is Mahayana Buddhism idealism, or does it say that the entire physical world exists independently of the minds of living beings?

As above, this is a question better suited to a Mahayana Buddhist forum such as Dharma Wheel so it will be closed.

Metta,
Paul.

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Were "wanderers of other sects" referred to as "householders"? I don't recall it.

Metta,
Paul.

Greetings Coëmgenu, The "Sravaka" schools, the Mahayana, all of them, believe that the dharmas are "empty" if I am not horribly mistaken and telling an untruth in saying that. The Sarvastivadins, Theravadins, etc., as well as uncountable various Mahayana schools, all believe that the dharmas are "em...

Greetings cappuccino,

Bhikkhu Pesala did well to close off your off-topic detour.

Please respect that and the OP and get...



Metta,
Paul.

Greetings, Does it "exist" permanently in a world without sentient life? yes, as the buddha taught. that is obviously it is "unconditioned" Lol. :alien: It appears you too have taken a phenomenology about phenomena (dhammas) and mistaken it to be an ontology, like our theistic friend here has done. ...

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retrofuturist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:15 amThat's my point, whether you agree with it or not.

DooDoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:24 am yes, it appears to be your point however i cannot imagine the Buddha agreeing with it

The fact he was, and assented to being known as the Tathagata would suggest otherwise.

All the best.

Metta,
Paul.

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DooDoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:19 am the nibbana element is the unconditioned and exists permanently in nature

Does it "exist" permanently in a world without sentient life?

Does it "exist" permanently on Phobos?



Metta,
Paul.

Greetings, (Ud 32) it is best to avoid causing trouble for others by using the above sutta referencing. Its Ud 3.10 i guess. :roll: "Bhava" ("existence; becoming") is unrelated to objective reality. You appear to be imputing your own meaning upon words. Any sankhata-dhamma is unrelated to "objective...

Greetings DooDoot, I paired it with the earlier Sutta quote for a reason... "This anguished world, fully given to contact, Speaks of a disease as self. In whatever terms it conceives of, Even thereby it turns otherwise. The world, attached to existence, given fully to existence, Though becoming othe...

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DooDoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:54 am Talk about kicking an own goal. Lol. I didn't read what u posted in any of those translations.

Non-sequitur.

Please try harder to make an actual point if you have one.



Metta,
Paul.

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Tutareture wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:38 am I mean more so in terms of concrete atoms and vijnanas arising infinitely anew since beginingless time.

Why do you require a phenomenology to account for ontological and metaphysical concerns such as these?

Metta,
Paul.

Greetings, I simply copied the translation and presented it here. Translation of what? Where is a link? Were u quoting Nanananda's translation of Pali? What are the exact Pali words quoted? Thanks :thanks: Talk about shifting the goalposts. I said I was discussing Sutta and gave a reference to what ...

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Explain what you think I am imputing.

I simply copied the translation and presented it here.

It eel-wriggling and evasiveness when there is no link to an obscure sutta with an obscure translation.

Nonsense. I gave the PTS reference. It's from Nanananda's translation.

Metta,
Paul.

Greetings,

DooDoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:23 am You appear to continue to ignore the suttas for your own personal ideology.

That's interesting. I do believe I was quoting suttas above. Perhaps I just take them to mean something different than what you do.

Metta,
Paul.