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by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings, Oh, so you are Sautrāntika... No. Why is it so hard for people to conceive of following the Buddha's teachings without also ascribing to the orthodoxy of a particular sect? I will however accept the Suttavadin designation, since that term is synonymous with non-sectarian pursuit of the Dh...
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings, Retro isn’t a Theravādin. (Setting aside the fact this is another attempt at ex-communication, and that's what prompted me to start this topic...) If I am not Theravadin by virtue of the fact that i follow the Sutta Pitaka, then that says more about Theravada than it says about me. Metta,...
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings,

I've explained how such a piecemeal approach is unnecessary. Nor do I find it satisfactory as it never gets to the crux of the issue. Hence this topic.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings, As does the Abhidhamma, since it is Right View. Not according to SN 12.15. :smile: Remember... the Buddha was the source of the Dhamma.Thus, he wasn't providing second-hand commentary on something written down long ago. He was the primary source. Therefore, in order for those in attendanc...
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings,
asahi wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:17 am Wouldnt it be more productive to take some example in the abhidhamma and examine them under the lights of the suttas ?
More productive than what, though? My original post explained why that is unnecessary.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:58 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings Ceisiwr, Abhidhamma concerns itself with the whole Dhamma. It does not appear this way to me. Whereas the Dhamma has the taste of liberation, the Abhidhamma has the taste of description. You really think the Blessed One when debating with other ascetics would just utter a few repetitive se...
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings Ceisiwr, And as explained to you, commentary explains a specific teaching or text. Abhidhamma explains the whole Dhamma. This may be your private interpretation but it is neither standard, nor accepted. The Blessed One wouldn’t have taught in such repetitive and simple terms like we find i...
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings, History suggests otherwise. I mean, even your phenomenological/Ven. Nanananda interpretation is a higher explanation. As mentioned in another topic recently, you are conflating Abhidhamma and explanation or commentary. The suttas are stripped down teachings. They aren’t direct recordings ...
by retrofuturist
Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma
Replies: 253
Views: 3752

Re: Retrofuturist's Brief Sutta-Based Refutation of Abhidhamma

Greetings, It's almost as if relying on the suttas is not enough, and that the Abhidhamma is inevitable. This is false. Even though sectarians feel compelled to create their own sectarian doctrines, the Dhamma of the Buddha remains for those without sectarian identification. Sectarianism is not inev...
by retrofuturist
Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:04 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Sam Vara returns as a moderator
Replies: 18
Views: 322

Re: Sam Vara returns as a moderator

Greetings SDA, The blue "founding member" designation applies to former staff members who were pivotal in the early days of the forum, and who helped get the forum up and running. Not all founding members want the formal designation, so they can opt out of this recognition if they so choose. No "blu...
by retrofuturist
Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:37 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Questions about Abhidhamma
Replies: 5
Views: 93

Re: Questions about Abhidhamma

Greetings DooDoot,

I don't know the answer to this question off the top of my head, but the first place I'd go looking to find out is...

The Roots Of Good And Evil by Nyanaponika Thera (PDF)

Especially from page 112.

:reading:

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Sam Vara returns as a moderator
Replies: 18
Views: 322

Sam Vara returns as a moderator

Greetings all, As you may have noticed, it's been pretty busy around these parts lately, with a lots of interesting conversations about the Dhamma taking place. Therefore, I'm very pleased to announced that Sam Vara has elected to return to the moderation team after a period of absence. Please join ...
by retrofuturist
Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:48 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Can a monk tell his followers that he is not fully enlightened?
Replies: 34
Views: 568

Re: Can a monk tell his followers that he is not fully enlightened?

Greetings, So how would you answer this question if you were monks (or when you were a monk.) :D ...usually I just reply that laypeople should never ask a bhikkhu about his attainments, for such a question is in effect an invitation for the bhikkhu to commit a Vinaya offence. That would seem like th...
by retrofuturist
Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: A touchstone for Classical Theravadins
Replies: 34
Views: 643

Re: A touchstone for Classical Theravadins

Greetings,
SDC wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:47 pm Seems clear that things can be “there” without even broaching the question of whether or not there is existence/non-existence/both/neither.
:goodpost:

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Poll: Abhidhamma and Theravada.
Replies: 50
Views: 778

Re: Poll: Abhidhamma and Theravada.

Greetings,
Dhammavamsa wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:23 am Well retro, you've made a big claim.
With every other sect (bar one?) making their own Abhidharmas, the bigger claim would be that "ours" traced back to the Buddha, yet somehow no other sect possessed it.

Metta,
Paul. :)