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by Bundokji
Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:26 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

I took "moral" here on terms of "if someone is morally responsible." Certainly, anyone can wrongly attribute responsibility, but they attribute it nonetheless, rightly or wrongly. I am wondering if morality is for assigning responsibility. While moral actions do indeed have consequences, they are m...
by Bundokji
Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:04 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

So is the fact that the children oughtn't be held responsible for deeds committed before their birth "moral" or "legal" to you? To me, the legal question does not arise as it necessitates self continuity to assign responsibility which is contingent to one life model . As for the moral question, hol...
by Bundokji
Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Suffering pleasure
Replies: 37
Views: 345

Re: Suffering pleasure

I like the idea that suffering is essentially passive, and how it therefore might also include pleasure. This is an interesting idea. Death is the ultimate passivity, hence described as suffering. However, when we dig deeper, there is a positive in being at the receiving end. Many people would deli...
by Bundokji
Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:59 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

The children can't have committed a past life deed unless they can travel through time and lives. IMO, it is a mistake to attribute moral culpability for particular former karma to people who suffer in the here and now. I think this is relevant to the relationship between the moral and the legal. T...
by Bundokji
Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: African wisdom?
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: African wisdom?

I believe there is plenty to learn from these traditions about an understanding of spiritual cosmology and harmonizing with the invisible forces around us, and while some of the practices can bring us closer to spiritual awareness and harmony, there are also distinct differences that are not in acc...
by Bundokji
Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:04 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

This doesn't answer the question. I think it does, but if you do not like the answer or find unconvincing, then that is fine. In your model are abused children to blame? This thread is not about child abuse, and when kamma is discussed, to the extent it is relevant to discuss and explain different ...
by Bundokji
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:26 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

So basically anything bad that happens to a person is their own fault. Abused children is their own fault? In the one life model where both the secular view and orthodox view apply, this is not evident. Same thing can be said about the value of life itself. In the one life model, life has value hen...
by Bundokji
Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Buddha didnt go vegan ?
Replies: 31
Views: 342

Re: Why Buddha didnt go vegan ?

Maybe because veganism does not really reduce harm when compared with vegetarianism.
by Bundokji
Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:13 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

So,if a person is killed its a cleansing for past Karma? An opportunity for rebirth in a better realm? It appears so considering that one main difference between the secular view and the orthodox view is the model of one life vs endless lives unless one escapes through Arahantship. Here, two exampl...
by Bundokji
Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:55 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada view vs secular view on killing
Replies: 75
Views: 784

Re: Theravada view vs secular view on killing

In the orthodox view, more attention is often paid to the vipaka of the killer. The act of killing is associated with being reborn in lower realms either in this life (ending up in jail or capital punishment) or the next. How about the victim? If being killed is a vipaka for past action, would that ...
by Bundokji
Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What makes the mind arise after it has ceased?
Replies: 21
Views: 313

Re: What makes the mind arise after it has ceased?

Because it doesn't describe the mechanism, it only explains the difference between two states. Maybe describing a mechanism would require/assume that vitality fabrications are the same as feeling states. It seems what emerges from Nirodha Samapatti has the quality of freshness and cannot be explain...
by Bundokji
Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What makes the mind arise after it has ceased?
Replies: 21
Views: 313

Re: What makes the mind arise after it has ceased?

That doesn't answer the question Why? "Friend, are vitality-fabrications the same thing as feeling-states? Or are vitality-fabrications one thing, and feeling-states another?" "Vitality-fabrications are not the same thing as feeling-states, friend. If vitality-fabrications were the same thing as fe...
by Bundokji
Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What makes the mind arise after it has ceased?
Replies: 21
Views: 313

Re: What makes the mind arise after it has ceased?

"What is the difference between one who is dead, who has completed his time, and a monk who has attained the cessation of perception & feeling?" "In the case of the one who is dead, who has completed his time, his bodily fabrications have ceased & subsided, his verbal fabrications ... his mental fa...
by Bundokji
Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: idappaccayata & paṭiccasamuppāda
Replies: 189
Views: 3107

Re: idappaccayata & paṭiccasamuppāda

Hi Pulsar, your intro statement confuses me. These extremes are due to the ignorance of the people, the extremes are mere illusion. Therefore the Buddha avoids the extremes. The dependence of the Middle path on the extremes is no negation of the extremes, but explaining how the extremes come to be b...
by Bundokji
Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:24 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: idappaccayata & paṭiccasamuppāda
Replies: 189
Views: 3107

Re: idappaccayata & paṭiccasamuppāda

No one crossed over because its referring to the body, its impermanent, it can't.....but it doesn't mean nothing escaped? Mind is a concept? really? There is the arising of wisdom and the cessation of ignorance. Escape is another concept, such as the mind. They can be used, but they mean very littl...