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by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

And what are you getting in this thread, even if by implication/opposition? I suppose I was hoping that a forum of Theravadans or Theravada-sympathizers would have more compelling raisons d'etre and/or internal consistencies than the typical Bay Area Feelgoodery that I am surrounded by. What I've s...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

Internet gotcha was not on my mind....but.....certainly what I posted brought it to your mind so I chalk it up as not just an attempt but as a mission accomplished as evidenced by your having missed the point entirely and instead having stooped to defending yourself from your guiltily perceived got...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

Yeah, but this one is: chownah In your attempt to do an INTERNET GOTCHA, you managed to miss the point entirely. Such are the perils of having internet discussions with ESL pedants, I suppose. Internet gotcha was not on my mind....but.....certainly what I posted brought it to your mind so I chalk i...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

tlxxxviii wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:11 pm
Pseudobabble wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:09 pm Ok. So don't give gifts. Just meditate and seek Right View. Problem solved.
You're not wrong, but that plan doesn't have enough arguing on the internet for my tastes. :stirthepot:

<3
I understand. It is indeed useful to explore alternative viewpoints.
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

I still don't understand how this is relevant though. Why is this an issue for you? Does it get in the way of your practice? You can presumably refrain from giving people flashy trash that they will get attached to... AN 5.34 One who gives is dear. People at large admire him. He gains honor. His st...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

Generosity makes sense in terms of the conventional view. Its purpose is to make one feel good, so that one can concentrate without being hobbled by anxiety and regret. Of course, if one is realised, there is no-one to give, receive, or own, so generosity becomes meaningless . I think we're getting...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

This is a generalizable phenomenon and "generosity" in the original quote is exactly and only this. Well, if you create a closed definition, the you will obviously not be able to escape that closed definition. But high-potential-fetter objects, when given to others, are seen as exemplifying "genero...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

Of course, viewed externally, that's what it looks like. But I think the idea is that the intention motivating the generosity is the important part, not the object given. I personally don't see how it matters though, unless you're planning to give away flashy trash to people for the purpose of corr...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

In any case, something can be an object of craving to you, but not to others, or to you and to others, or to neither. Whether the thing is an object of craving to others is not in your control, and if it could be a necessity to another, why not give it? Their kamma is their own concern. Right. So "...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

A starving person considers food to be precious. Does that mean if you give them food, you are poisoning them because they crave food? The original quote is quite obviously not about giving food to starving people, shelter to the homeless, or the Dhamma to knuckleheads. If you don't want to spend t...
by Pseudobabble
Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Generosity as Poison
Replies: 132
Views: 7561

Re: Generosity as Poison

tlxxxviii wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:22 am
cappuccino wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:20 am Our feeling for beauty is a spiritual and not a sensual emotion. -Roger Scruton
Is this a bot account?
We are all bots here, and cappucino is our leader.

You are the only human left.
by Pseudobabble
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50315

Re: Theravada against mathematics

The problem is, 'beginningless time' (if such a concept makes any sense), or infinite series, or whatever, is not something that Abhidhamma or Theravada has the authority to define. It is a matter for physicists. Attacking Theravada or Abhidhamma on the basis that it makes some mistakes in its cosmo...
by Pseudobabble
Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The Dhamma
Replies: 32
Views: 2445

Re: The Dhamma

"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?" "A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...suc...
by Pseudobabble
Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The Dhamma
Replies: 32
Views: 2445

Re: The Dhamma

You can find that out for yourself, and test it in practice. I have. What I have said is only my opinion. Sure. But is appears unrelated to the suttas. No doubt you have DD. If you don't mind, what is nama , and it's role, in your opinion? If you could answer without quoting anything, I would be mu...
by Pseudobabble
Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The Dhamma
Replies: 32
Views: 2445

Re: The Dhamma

Perhaps not, but I think we need to use our brains, and try to make a bridge to what was said so many years ago. It is unlikely that ancient texts will deliver the truth to us exactly as it is easiest for us to understand it. 'Nama' is omitted from many suttas on Dependent Origination. It does not ...