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by DooDoot
Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What happens to consciousness/awareness when entering Paranirvana?
Replies: 34
Views: 559

Re: What happens to consciousness/awareness when entering Paranirvana?

Nicolas wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm [Second quote is upon/after break-up of the body.
Are there any suttas that say "break-up of the body" ("kāyassa bhedā") occurs to an Arahant? Thanks :shrug:
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is panna? Is it permanent?
Replies: 6
Views: 188

Re: What is panna? Is it permanent?

Nirvana or the state of being enlightened Nirvana is not enlightenment. Nirvana is a fruit of enlightenment. Its like studying to become a doctor. The study or gaining of medical knowledge is enlightenment. The making of money by practising being a doctor is a result of enlightenment. Study is stud...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

But the pali used for "liberating" is always used in relation to awakening and freedom from the taints. Unlikely. For example, MN 43 refers to five types of citta/ceto vimutti (4th jhana, metta, nothingness, signless & sunnata) and appears to say sunnata vimutti is the foremost or unshakeable vimut...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

But if the mind is liberated from the taints, The mind is not liberated from the potential arising of the taints. Liberating the mind at step 12 merely means liberating the mind from any obscurations to optimal awareness. how can there be contemplation of the fading of lust, cessation and letting g...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

Still, there is the final problem of how we go from liberating the mind to contemplating impermanence, fading of lust, cessation and letting go. Can these be said to follow logically and naturally from when the mind has been well liberated? As I have suggested a number of times, the 16 experiences ...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

Ceisiwr wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:26 am How do you explain the reversal of the seven factors?
Sorry. Kindly explain the above. Thanks
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

Hmm but we always find joy proceeding rapture and sukha. For example: Not always. Only sometimes, in a different context. This said, yes, the non-mentioning of joy before rapture in MN 118 does not necessarily mean there is no joy prior to step 5. MN 118 is about the 16 salient dominant meditation ...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

The "mindfulness with" as opposed to "of"? Say you are successfully watching the breathing and you or the mind thinks: " I am the best meditator in the world ". At this point, if there is mindfulness, mindfulness brings sampajana and recollects: " I am the best " is a self-view, is conceit and shou...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:29 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Analysis of Expression; The Doctrine of Self & The Doctrine of Dhamma
Replies: 5
Views: 146

Re: Analysis of Expression; The Doctrine of Self & The Doctrine of Dhamma

Yāvatā, bhikkhave, dhammā saṅkhatā vā asaṅkhatā vā, virāgo tesaṃ aggamakkhāyati, yadidaṃ madanimmadano pipāsavinayo ālayasamugghāto vaṭṭupacchedo taṇhākkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṃ. = Fading away is said to be the best of all things [dhamma] whether conditioned or unconditioned. That is, the quell...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

having put away covetousness and grief for the world. The above is found in each tetrad. the sutta has mindfulness [knowing] of long and short breaths occurring before any training begins. "Training" means "Three Trainings". In steps 1 & 2, there is no real training in higher morality or higher wis...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

(Could it be that one of the disagreements in this topic is connected to the quasi-semantic difference between this angle: "when a hindrance arises, then one is not practicing satipatthana in that moment, by definition", and this angle: "a hindrance arose during this satipatthana practice session" ...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sutta / 'Early Buddhist' Fundamentalism
Replies: 8
Views: 218

Re: Sutta / 'Early Buddhist' Fundamentalism

We can understand how each of the Buddhist traditions has adapted the dhamma to their own time and place, and what’s even more important: we can understand how we are doing that here and now. ... I agree. A probable problem with the above is it appears to take for granted that those "adapters" of D...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sutta / 'Early Buddhist' Fundamentalism
Replies: 8
Views: 218

Re: Sutta / 'Early Buddhist' Fundamentalism

What is the point of the above when the various EBT fundamentalists cannot even agree on the EBTs? :shrug:
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

Ānāpānassati then cannot be developed fully unless one is fully aware and non-forgetful. This suggests that to successfully practice and develop ānāpānasati the meditator has to start with the mind. Looking at the 3rd tetrad of ānāpānasati we find: :roll: Not really possible to calm the breath & ma...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna
Replies: 159
Views: 1891

Re: Some thoughts on Satipaṭṭhāna, Ānāpānasati, the Satta Bojjhaṅgā and Jhāna

The abandoning of[the hindrances is shown in the suttas as: "...having put away covetousness and grief for the world." Yes.... "having put away" :thinking: "liberating the mind" as being a stage that refers to abandoning the hindrances The above is wrong. The Patisambanadava, which I already quoted...