This is due to the fact that the monks began to live in one place, and almost ceased to wander. They took root, and some of them acquired property and power, which is bad, of course.

Did the Buddha say that after the final nibbana without the rest of the fuel, any consciousness continues? it's called the Deathless state Yes, only he calls the element , not the state . The Buddha also calls nibbana "unborn." Because it is a cessation of existence (bhava nirodho), and no further ...

Sutta with an important point: AN 6.73 Paṭhamatajjhāna Sutta: First Absorption (1st) “ Mendicants, without giving up these six qualities you can’t enter and remain in the first absorption . What six? Desire for sensual pleasures, ill will, dullness and drowsiness, restlessness and remorse, and doubt...

I recommend reading http://api.equinoxpub.com/articles/fulltext/7139 chapter "Final Nibbana".

Did the Buddha say that after the onset of the final nibbana without the rest of the fuel, any consciousness continues? No. Such a consciousness is fictional.

unconditioned consciousness remains Atman? It is the Unformed, the Unconditioned , the End, ~ S 43.1-44 "And what, bhikkhus, is the unconditioned? The destruction of lust, the destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this is called the unconditioned". SN 43.1 *** Consciousness is imperma...

cappuccino wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:26 pmunconditioned consciousness remains

Atman?

It's just an idiom, meaning "rooting the mind in mindfulness."

SarathW wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:26 pmI understand all except that eye etc and its objects are suffering.

This means: they cause suffering. When something is visible, audible, etc. causes unpleasant feelings.

cappuccino wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:24 pm the quote is concerning human monks

I know.

cappuccino wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:10 pm

Antaradhana wrote: It means touching the mind (meaning mental body) to nibbana.

there is no mental body, you're not making sense

Yeah, they're in the meat body in rupa-jhana. And they touch the deathless element with their palm

Consciousness without feature, without end, luminous all around Nibbana is not viññāṇa. Really, it just isn’t. K those who dwell touching the deathless element with the body. Cunda Sutta It means touching the mind (meaning mental body) to nibbana. The deathless element is one of the poetic epithets...

cappuccino wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:29 pmConsciousness without feature,
without end,
luminous all around

https://sujato.wordpress.com/2011/05/13 ... ust-isn’t/

cappuccino wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:23 pmyou've gone all in about annihilation

You inappropriately use the term "annihilation." It is appropriate to use it only in relation to a constantly existing entity, and in relation to changing phenomena that arise as one and disappear as the other, it is inappropriate to use it.

cappuccino wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:17 pm you're still proposing annihilation

Not. You do not understand. Without the addition of fuel (tanha), the fire is extinguished, only residual fuel (khandhas formed by past kamma) dies down. With the end of life 5 khandha finally fall apart, only bodily remains remain.