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by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

Faith by itself doesn't do anything to the practice. Faith is just a prerequisite to practice the path. actually, it helps you accept the truth even strange truth Faith doesn't mean you know the truth, it means you believe it may be the truth. Nobody here knows if kamma or rebirth are real, we beli...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:04 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

The Buddha knows everything about and within the All. That is the limit of what can be known. If there is anything outside of the All, we cannot know. In other words, the Buddha can know anything about what is possible to know. The interesting thing is that if he said he did know the beginning of s...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:52 pm
rhinoceroshorn wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:48 pm In other words, it's not possible to know everything.
perhaps you lack faith


thus are coming to a skeptical conclusion


which is wrong
Faith by itself doesn't do anything to the practice. Faith is just a prerequisite to practice the path.
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:55 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

He said it is without discoverable beginning. In other words, it's not possible to know everything. The Buddha knows everything about and within the All. That is the limit of what can be known. If there is anything outside of the All, we cannot know. In other words, the Buddha can know anything abo...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

The Buddha was asked if he said that it is impossible to claim knowledge and vision that is all knowing and seeing. The Buddha said he never said that. He clarifies that he said that it is only impossible to know everything at once. And is it possible to know everything at all? Why didn't the Buddh...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

"It is not possible that a brahman or contemplative would claim a knowledge and vision that is all-knowing and all-seeing without exception ."' Those who say this: are they speaking in line with what the Blessed One has said? Are they not misrepresenting the Blessed One with what is unfactual? Are ...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

Please, don't try to convince me this is any right. It's obviously wrong. It's interesting that a seemingly scientific-leaning person like you already shut down your mind for abstract reasoning and further investigation. If there's anything we can learn out of science, its' that it constantly evolv...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

This great earth, Ananda, is established upon liquid , the liquid upon the atmosphere, and the atmosphere upon space. And when, Ananda, mighty atmospheric disturbances take place, the liquid is agitated. And with the agitation of the liquid, tremors of the earth arise. This is the first reason, the...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

It's great how the suttas have an answer to everything. For example, the Acintita Sutta (AN 4:77): That was predictable. :lol: Since Theravada assumes the Buddha is omniscient, I can assume he was not. Complain with the tradition which firstly assumed this position and made us think the Buddha knew...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:29 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

It'd be useful to know the range of knowledge of the Buddha. The most pragmatic position is assuming he was not omniscient. It doesn't create unnecessary implications and we can hypothesize he was maybe wrong, not blindly denying the possibility of mistakes. It's great how the suttas have an answer...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:26 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

this part of the sutta is not in the equivalent Agama I think it might be. Who said it wasn't? 佛告阿難:「凡世地動,有八因緣。 何等八?夫地在水上,水止於風,風止於空, 空中大風有時自起,則大水擾,大水擾則普 地動,是為一也。復次,阿難!有時得道比丘、比 丘尼及大神尊天,觀水性多,觀地性少,欲 自試力,則普地動,是為二也。 The Buddha spoke to Ānanda, saying "Generally speaking (凡), for the world to quake, ther...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

Please may I ask: Do you think the answer to your question seriously worth knowing for you? :heart: Actually, there is no way to know the truth about this. Just collecting opinions. It'd be useful to know the range of knowledge of the Buddha. The most pragmatic position is assuming he was not omnis...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

I also considered that. Hindus love to put those 5 elements everywhere. I was reading a book on Ayurveda and even food is classified like that. Sweet taste is water and earth, for example. :rolleye: Yes it’s quite common in the old texts. There is even a Upanishad that originates from the Buddha’s ...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

Ancient Buddhist Arhats, the Buddha himself, possibly believed in Sumeru because it was reasonable from their/his perspective. I actually suspect the Buddha did not believe in Sumeru, because I am a modern and Sumeru is a belief that smacks of Iron Age geographical naivety (right down to the four s...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?
Replies: 104
Views: 1333

Re: DN16: How to explain this WRONG explanation about earthquakes?

“There are these eight reasons, eight causes, Ānanda, for the occurrence of a great earthquake. Which eight? This great Earth, Ānanda, stands in the water, the water stands in the atmosphere, the atmosphere stands in space. There comes a time, Ānanda, when great winds blow, with the great winds blo...