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by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

I have no idea what his views on this are and what he had in mind when translating it. If he takes it to mean the physical body then obviously I disagree. Sujato isn’t the final authority here. Well, if Ṭhānissaro and Sujato don't disagree in something, it's a good sinal. :yingyang: Ṭhānissaro’s tr...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Ok? ... And if he wanted kaya to stand for another thing other than the physical body, he would translate it quite clearly. I have no idea what his views on this are and what he had in mind when translating it. If he takes it to mean the physical body then obviously I disagree. Sujato isn’t the fin...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Well yes, kaya means “body”. What is meant by “body” though is context specific, just like with English or Sanskrit. Except that Sujato is very biased. When he wants to make something clear about his viewpoint, he DOES. He renders lokadhatu as galaxy and vitakka and vicara as placing and keeping it...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

I mostly agree but in this case was ok. Btw, Sujato also translates kaya in MN 19 as body. Well yes, kaya means “body”. What is meant by “body” though is context specific, just like with English or Sanskrit. Except that Sujato is very biased. When he wants to make something clear about his viewpoin...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Actually, if you read it carefully, it's only saying that you are meditating on Nibbāna, nothing else. "Touching with the body" = meditate on Nibbāna/experience Nibbāna while having a body. Even Sujato renders it omitting the body part. Because it’s incredibly rare to find individuals in the world ...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Actually, if you read it carefully, it's only saying that you are meditating on Nibbāna, nothing else. "Touching with the body" = meditate on Nibbāna/experience Nibbāna while having a body. Even Sujato renders it omitting the body part. Because it’s incredibly rare to find individuals in the world w...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Much like how it doesn’t make sense to say that “touching the deathless element with the body” means the physical body: Because these are amazing people, hard to find in the world, i.e., those who dwell touching the deathless element with the body. Acchariyā hete, āvuso, puggalā dullabhā lokasmiṃ, ...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

The Buddha merely said that thinking makes his body fatigate. I explained that this is due to expense of energy by the brain in firing synapses. Just test it yourself: keep thinking and see if you don't get tired. You can't accept it because apparently your theoretical Abhidhammic studies are castin...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Given that this is discussing mental dhammas and given that the ayatanas can’t experience each other’s sphere, apart from the mind base which can experience them all, I’m not sure it makes sense to say that this refers to the physical body. I don’t think we can say that the physical body experience...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Yes, Ceisiwr, this is one of the suttas which contradicts the blatantly wrong understanding that body in jhāna isn't the physical body. Deal with it. :popcorn:
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

Obviously it's talking about the physical body Still, thinking and considering for too long would tire my body. Api ca kho me aticiraṃ anuvitakkayato anuvicārayato kāyo kilameyya. kāya masculine the body, the physical body; sometimes the material form (of a particular existence) as opposed to the me...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

“As an energy-consumer, the brain is the most expensive organ we carry around with us,” says Dr. Marcus Raichle, a distinguished professor of medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. While the brain represents just 2% of a person’s total body weight, it accounts for 20% of...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

Re: MN 19: mind-brain connection

And how does a bhikkhu observe moderation in eating? Here, reflecting carefully, a bhikkhu consumes food neither for amusement nor for intoxication nor for the sake of physical beauty and attractiveness, but only for the support and maintenance of this body, for avoiding harm, and for assisting the...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: MN 19: mind-brain connection
Replies: 42
Views: 2844

MN 19: mind-brain connection

If I were to think & ponder in line with that even for a night... even for a day... even for a day & night, I do not envision any danger that would come from it, except that thinking & pondering a long time would tire the body. When the body is tired, the mind is disturbed; and a disturbed mind is ...
by rhinoceroshorn
Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Lotus Position
Replies: 27
Views: 7293

Re: Lotus Position

I wish I had had a wholesome infancy like them!