Yes, from the Dhammasaṅgaṇī and the Kathāvatthu, etc.Coyote wrote:Is this from the Abhidhamma?
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- Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:11 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
- Topic: Sotāpanna: the path and fruit taught by the Buddha
- Replies: 50
- Views: 13093
Re: Sotāpanna: the path and fruit taught by the Buddha
- Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:13 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
- Topic: Sotāpanna: the path and fruit taught by the Buddha
- Replies: 50
- Views: 13093
Re: Sotāpanna: the path and fruit taught by the Buddha
I was surprised to hear some teachers' comments such as a Sotapanna must very briefly experience nibbana (what they mean is the cessation of perception and feeling ). Why are you surprised? Isn't it the (classical) Theravada understanding that all paths and fruits take nibbana as an object? The dif...
- Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:28 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
- Topic: Sotāpanna: the path and fruit taught by the Buddha
- Replies: 50
- Views: 13093
Re: Sotappana: the path and fruit taught by the Buddha
I agree with Zom's above-quoted comments. I'd like to add a sutta indicating that the attainment of sotapanna doesn't require the knowledge of experiencing nibbana... Nibbāna means extinguishment . With the fruition of stream-entry a stream entrant has realized the extinguishment of the first three...
- Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:53 am
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: On Thanissaro Bhikkhu's anatta teachings
- Replies: 356
- Views: 50505
Re: On Thanissaro Bhikkhu's anatta teachings
What philosophy is found in Buddhist practice? There are some similarities in ancient Western variations of askēsis to aspects of Buddhist practice. And Buddhist practice has also been informed by ethics, epistemology, logic, etc. Although the ancient Buddhists didn't develop ethical theories the w...
- Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:53 am
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: On Thanissaro Bhikkhu's anatta teachings
- Replies: 356
- Views: 50505
Re: On Thanissaro Bhikkhu's anatta teachings
With philosophy is meant the love(passion) of wisdom as fixed concepts(dogma) in boxes especially western academic materials. This seems like a pretty limited perspective with regard to all that has gone on in the name of philosophy in the Western tradition. Ancient philosophy was often considered ...
- Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:17 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: Ekayana
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3299
Re: Ekayana
I don't think so. But one version or another was eventually absorbed into most or all Indo-Tibetan and East Asian Mahāyāna exegetical traditions.PadmaPhala wrote:was it an actual school?
- Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:50 am
- Forum: Pāli
- Topic: Samadhi (best English translation?)
- Replies: 136
- Views: 99007
Re: Samadhi (best English translation?)
Sylvester wrote:Fair enough Geoff. I accept and agree with your proposition -

- Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:07 am
- Forum: Pāli
- Topic: Samadhi (best English translation?)
- Replies: 136
- Views: 99007
Re: Samadhi (best English translation?)
In short, I am taking up Norman's call that a much more critical way of discussing texts is to consign the Theravāda, Sarvāstivāda and whatever other Vāda's interpretations to their specialist fields and not allow them contaminate a proper linguistic-textual-doctrinal study. If this method does not...
- Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:30 pm
- Forum: Pāli
- Topic: Samadhi (best English translation?)
- Replies: 136
- Views: 99007
Re: Samadhi (best English translation?)
This, as most English readers would insist, must suggest that vipassanā is contemporaneous with jhāna . Why do you continue to suggest that this is an error created by English language readers? Ven. Bodhi, Ven. Ṭhānissaro, Ven. Guṇaratana, and the entirety of the ancient Sarvāstivāda, Sautrāntika, ...
- Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:02 pm
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
- Replies: 42
- Views: 9128
Re: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
I consider any Buddhavacana texts to be historical texts, while not all historical texts are Buddhavacana. I consider the Nikayas to be a broad, complex, chronological development with respect to the Dhamma, rather than a single product of The First Council which looks the same now as it did then (...
- Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:56 pm
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
- Replies: 42
- Views: 9128
Re: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
It begs the question, to wit: are the Nikayas in toto inviolate Buddhavacana, or are they texts which arose out of historical processes? Which begs the question: What criteria is one to use to differentiate Buddhavacana from texts which arose out of historical processes? Your various "why not" slip...
- Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:34 pm
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
- Replies: 42
- Views: 9128
Re: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
Why should anyone accept a post-modern relativistic revision of Buddhist history? Why should anyone prefer a pre-modern mythical scholastic creation of Buddhist history? Well, doesn't this characterization of dhamma narratives as "pre-modern mythical scholastic creation[s]" already presuppose postm...
- Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:09 pm
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
- Replies: 42
- Views: 9128
Re: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
Too bad I said nothing else about the topic, else we might have had something relevant to discuss. Well, you did: The underlined portion is probably a mistake, since it judges the centuries-long composition of this oral material according to modern historical values, rather than according to then-s...
- Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:15 pm
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
- Replies: 42
- Views: 9128
Re: Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox
Was this derogatory comment an example of acting with appropriate attention?daverupa wrote:Indeed, it's all very woo-woo.
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There's a whole lot of open space between dogmatic literalism and cynical derision. You should check it out sometime.
- Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:10 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Can the Bhikkhuni Sangha be revived as per the Vinaya?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7037
Re: Can the Bhikkhuni Sangha be revived as per the Vinaya?
Thanissaro Bhikkhu makes mention that the Buddha didn't hand down a mechanism in which to revive the Sangha if it ever died, such as the Bhikkhuni Sangha. What structural constraints described in the Vinaya prevents its revival? According to Ven. Bodhi here , there isn't any clear prohibition preve...