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by Sherab
Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

There is "mind" if there is "an object of mind" otherwise there is no "mind". It appears as if all this talk about "mind" or "the nature of mind" entails its reification. Kind regards I think the key word here is "appears". Let's wait until someone actually reify something and we take it from there...
by Sherab
Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

There is "mind" if there is "an object of mind" otherwise there is no "mind". It appears as if all this talk about "mind" or "the nature of mind" entails its reification. Kind regards I think the key word here is "appears". Let's wait until someone actually reify something and we take it from there.
by Sherab
Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:20 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

Thanks Anicca for the link. I checked out MN49 and liked it very much. I also checked out DN11 and found this: "'Your question should not be phrased in this way: Where do these four great elements — the earth property, the liquid property, the fire property, and the wind property — cease without rem...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

Sense consciousness is free from imputations. Therefore it is possible for the first moment of a mental consciousness arising in dependence on a sense consciousness to be free of imputations. However, mental consciousness that does arise in dependence on a mental consciousness will have to do so on...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

When consciousness first arises, the first moments of it in a sense are free of the conditioning that comes storming in as it goes through it process of rising and falling. It is that first bit that is cultivated via mindfulness and concentration practice. Anything else starts getting into a metaph...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

When consciousness first arises, the first moments of it in a sense are free of the conditioning that comes storming in as it goes through it process of rising and falling. It is that first bit that is cultivated via mindfulness and concentration practice. Anything else starts getting into a metaph...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

tiltbillings wrote:
Sherab wrote:Could you elaborate?
What do you think lumimous means here?
Unclouded. Now could you elaborate on your previous post?
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

Be very, very careful in reading this text. Do we read "the mind" - citta - as refering to some sort of existing thing - the mind ? The mind that is to be developed has to refer to the dependently arisen mind. That development somehow seems to be connected with discenment of "that as it actually is...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

" The above verses seem to say that the key to development of the mind is to discern that as it actually is present . What is that as it actually is present ? maybe this? "Herein, Bahiya, you should train yourself thus: 'In the seen will be merely what is seen; in the heard will be merely what is h...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Re: Luminious mind

Be very, very careful in reading this text. Do we read "the mind" - citta - as refering to some sort of existing thing - the mind ? The mind that is to be developed has to refer to the dependently arisen mind. That development somehow seems to be connected with discenment of "that as it actually is...
by Sherab
Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 23797

Luminious mind

"Luminous, monks, is the mind. And it is defiled by incoming defilements." "Luminous, monks, is the mind. And it is freed from incoming defilements." "Luminous, monks, is the mind. And it is defiled by incoming defilements. The uninstructed run-of-the-mill person doesn't discern that as it actually ...