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by Sherab
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: The final combination of dhammas before the manifestation of Nibbana is an impossible event

We define the terms. A test is a combination of causes and conditions leading to an outcome. The outcome is incidental if the test leading to any outcome has other outcomes. A random event is any collection of random outcomes. A deterministic event is an outcome that is sure to occur during a given...
by Sherab
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

cappuccino wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:09 pm
Sherab wrote: Does the dependent arisen consciousness ceased at Nibbana?
yes and no
Why yes?
Why no?
Why yes AND no?
by Sherab
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

The reality is that there are many interpretations of what the Buddha actually taught amongst Theravadins and Mahayanists and within the Mahayana, the Vajrayanists. Which compounds the problem. Which problem? I have seen people on this forum and its sister forum holding a position that is vulnerabl...
by Sherab
Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

If there is no subject of free choice, then the path to Nibbana (the sequence of combinations of dhammas, after which Nibbana manifests) is random or deterministic. In any case, this path will be traversed for an infinite past. Here, in this thread, random events were denied in favor of fully deter...
by Sherab
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

I don't think this kind of contemplations are anything more than an amusing pastime. The OP unfortunately has a knack for making assertions with no actual understanding to back them up. His original thesis has been repeatedly disproved, but like a bot he keeps repeating the same thing instead of en...
by Sherab
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Regarding the two types of consciousness that the Buddha taught: In the MN 38 Mahatanhasankhaya Sutta: The Greater Craving-Destruction Discourse https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.038.than.html Sati was severely admonished by the Buddha when he insisted that there is a consciousness tha...
by Sherab
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Re:

Germann wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:32 am
You have not responded to my reply here viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33879&start=570#p509697

Do you disagree with me here viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33879&start=570#p509696
by Sherab
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Re:

For this, a subject of free choice is needed (the subject is a stream of dharmas), and not a denial of the existence of the subject (the stream of dharmas exists, the "man" is called the stream of dharmas). It is not about absolute freedom. There is some degree of freedom, that's enough. If a subje...
by Sherab
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Nibbana has no kammic reasons, but its manifestation has conditions. The realization of Nibbana is the well-known sequence of dhammas. This sequence of dhammas, if possible, has a non-zero probability. If Nibbana is mere cessation, then we can say that mere cessation requires that condition of the ...
by Sherab
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re:

Nibbana can be anything. Theravadin Nibbana is most similar to Nirguna Brahman - a transcendental entity, an absolute reality that remains out of experience, after all phenomena cease. What are your reasons for saying the above? Absolute reality that exists after the cessation of phenomena. Absolut...
by Sherab
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

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If satta, the subject of free choice, is totally denied, then all events are random or predetermined. The lack of free choice (i.e. a choice that is not determined by any cause or influence by any condition (I am not even sure if there is such a thing in reality)) does not mean that there is no cho...
by Sherab
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Re:

That combination is not deterministic. The Buddha has emphasized the importance of effort, constant mindfulness and concentration. These all require the volition of the one seeking realization. If satta, the subject of free choice, is totally denied, then all events are random or predetermined. The...
by Sherab
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Re:

If there is no free choice, then all events are either random or deterministic. If there are random events, the entire Path to Nibbana should be already “printed” for an endless past (the title post). If there are no random events, then all events are totally deterministic. Deterministic algorithm,...
by Sherab
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Nibbana, being outside this set of parameters, hasn't happened for all beings. That was my primary argument against Germann's proposition. Basically, my argument was that Nibbana is unconditioned. Being unconditioned, it can never be a member of the infinite set of all casually chained events. Nibb...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 50696

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If we attribute the free choice to a separate, conditioned dhamma, making it a subject, then regardless of the moral choice, the fate of all the subjects is the same — the termination. There is no kammic reward for dhammas. I was answering this part of your post: "If, however, we consider liberatio...