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by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

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If we attribute the free choice to a separate, conditioned dhamma, making it a subject, then regardless of the moral choice, the fate of all the subjects is the same — the termination. There is no kammic reward for dhammas. I was answering this part of your post: "If, however, we consider liberatio...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

clw_uk wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:52 pm Nibbana, being outside this set of parameters, hasn't happened for all beings.
That was my primary argument against Germann's proposition. Basically, my argument was that Nibbana is unconditioned. Being unconditioned, it can never be a member of the infinite set of all casually chained events.
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Debunking his argument is quite simple. He claims in an infinite universe anything that could happen already has happened. Well, then by making that statement he already disproves himself, for an event has to happen at some point in time, and so there will be people experiencing that event as it is...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

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I am curious as to what your actual view is, or more specifically, whether or not the Buddha taught an ontology. If yes, what is that ontology. As this is off-topic, perhaps you could message me instead. Buddha did not teach the mereological nihilism. I think I can agree with you on this. Buddha ta...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Clarification

Implication of (2): Assume that the realization of Nibbana refers to possible events. Assume also that all possible events can only exist within the beginningless chain of conditioned dhammas. If we divide the chain of conditioned dhammas into a portion that is beginningless until now and a portion...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

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I think you are making the assumption that the first portion is injective into the second portion. I don't think that is true. Why? Events are already connected with the past. The events have already gone. Yes, the first portion is injective into the second portion. It might be easier to see that i...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

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As mentioned before, I see where you were coming from and I have also mentioned where I disagreed with you. If we attribute the free choice to a separate, conditioned dhamma, making it a subject, then regardless of the moral choice, the fate of all the subjects is the same — the termination. There ...
by Sherab
Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: The liberation is not available for the subject

Implication of (1): If you hold the belief of beginningless chain of conditioned dhammas, then any ability to select an event must necessarily be an emergent phenomenon of the begninningless chain of conditioned dhammas. This means that any self with an ability to make choices must be an emergent p...
by Sherab
Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Germann's argument: The concept of "satta" in the Theravadin Abhidhamma is the concept of not-existent (satta-pannatti is the avijjamana-pannatti). There was no one who could select events. This means that in the beginningless Buddhist past (the chain of conditioned dhammas does not have a first lin...
by Sherab
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

You will argue that Nibbana can not manifest after the complete passage of the Path? You are just repeating a question that you have asked previously. Please revisit my previous replies to your previous questions. You will see that I have already answered your question. By the way, I would like to ...
by Sherab
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Nibbana manifests after a series of pre-known combinations of dhammas. Nothing else matters. Based on your argument, Nibbana is something conditioned. But Nibbana is something unconditioned. If you accept that, then how can you argue that Nibbana manifests after a series of pre-known combinations o...
by Sherab
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

Nibbana can be anything (complete non-existence, for example). It does not matter. The only important thing is that Nibbana manifests after a certain sequence of combinations of dhammas, which has a beginning and an end (after passing the entire Path). Nibbana cannot be anything. It is 'something' ...
by Sherab
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

This does not change anything. Nibbana should have already manifested. Then you don't understand the analogy of phase transition. I did not want to use the usual analogy of a jewel covered in mud or the sun behind the cloud precisely because there is a tendency for your type of response which tende...
by Sherab
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

This does not change anything. Nibbana should have already manifested. Then you don't understand the analogy of phase transition. I did not want to use the usual analogy of a jewel covered in mud or the sun behind the cloud precisely because there is a tendency for your type of response which tende...
by Sherab
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 49760

Re: Theravada against mathematics

While still alive, "Arahant" is touching the body of Nibbana in the state of nirodha. As for the disintegration of the khandhas, this disintegration is the result of the complete passage of the Path — the result of a series of successive combinations of dhammas. Such a "novel" should have been writ...