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by Sam Vara
Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:41 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile
Replies: 27
Views: 15712

Re: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile

I have difficulty figuring out what exactly Sam Vega is saying here. Perhaps I'm not reading it correctly... As far as I understand Bhikkhu Bodhi only says that "perpetual liberation" (referring to attaining the path or fruit of stream-entry, sakadagami, anagami or arahatship) has a broader meaning...
by Sam Vara
Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Maggo Sanjayati Anguttara Nikaya, Four’s, Sutta 170 ?
Replies: 25
Views: 2412

Re: Maggo Sanjayati Anguttara Nikaya, Four’s, Sutta 170 ?

What I said is based on the Sutta Pitaka which clearly shows that puthujjana monks and lay followers are not on the noble eightfold path. The later teachings, the Theravada orthodoxy, and modern writers on Buddhism may say otherwise. No doubt they simply ignore all those passages in the Sutta Pitak...
by Sam Vara
Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:43 pm
Forum: Lounge (Archive)
Topic: RIP - Rest in Peace
Replies: 7
Views: 2245

Re: RIP - Rest in Peace

I'm very happy to have RIP on my headstone....

Rebirth
In
Progress.....
What about

Rebirth
Interrupted....
Permanently!
by Sam Vara
Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:08 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile
Replies: 27
Views: 15712

Re: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile

So this holy life, bhikkhus, does not have gain, honour, and renown for its benefit, or the attainment of virtue for its benefit, or the attainment of concentration for its benefit, or knowledge and vision as its benefit. But it is this unshakable deliverance of mind that is the goal of this holy l...
by Sam Vara
Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: He trains himself...relinquishment
Replies: 24
Views: 3799

Re: He trains himself...relinquishment

Hi Cal, I'm just interested in practical terms how one actually does this. Presumably each of the list of focuses given by the Buddha (inconstancy, dispassion, cessation etc.) are a focus for a single, whole meditation session? For what my own personal experience is worth, I started making faster pr...
by Sam Vara
Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?
Replies: 4
Views: 884

Re: Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

This is a really intriguing question! Perhaps 2500 years ago, without a modern appreciating of the optics of refraction and reflection, it would not be such a compelling simile of something that only appears to be real and is just an image created by causes and conditions. But surely it has the same...
by Sam Vara
Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:49 am
Forum: Study Group
Topic: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile
Replies: 27
Views: 15712

Re: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile

So he had fame and he had skill in concentration, giving him supernormal powers (iddhi). But from the rest of the account, he was a bit lacking in the "consummation of virtue" and "knowledge and vision" departments! The usefulness of such accounts is not so much related to the issue of super-normal...
by Sam Vara
Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:58 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Best Buddhist Blogs
Replies: 11
Views: 2926

Re: The Best Buddhist Blogs

Ajahn Sucitto's blog:

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by Sam Vara
Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:29 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Sutta on methods of sense restraint?
Replies: 33
Views: 8860

Re: Sutta on methods of sense restraint?

Interesting question, as I have seen a lot of references to sense-restraint in the suttas, but little on techniques. You might consider the section on "avoiding" in the Sabbasava Sutta (MN 2): And what are the fermentations to be abandoned by avoiding? There is the case where a monk, reflecting appr...
by Sam Vara
Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:53 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile
Replies: 27
Views: 15712

Re: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile

Further to this, I have just checked out my only hard copy of the M.N., which is translated in (I think) the 1950s, by the Pali scholar I.B. Horner.

She translates "heartwood" as "pith", and gives this line as
So he will not get the good that could be done by the pith because it is the pith
by Sam Vara
Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:38 pm
Forum: Lounge (Archive)
Topic: Enough
Replies: 1
Views: 440

Re: Enough

Enough! or Too much
(William Blake, Proverbs of Hell)
by Sam Vara
Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:33 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile
Replies: 27
Views: 15712

Re: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile

Hi Mike, Thanissaro Bhikkhu has this refrain: That's why he, in need of heartwood, seeking heartwood, wandering in search of heartwood — passing over the heartwood of a great standing tree possessed of heartwood, passing over the sapwood, passing over the inner bark, passing over the outer bark — cu...
by Sam Vara
Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:19 am
Forum: Study Group
Topic: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile
Replies: 27
Views: 15712

Re: MN 29 Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile

There is an interesting detail in this list of conditions which I find extremely arresting, but I only discovered it by reading each section very carefully. I have a tendency towards impatience with repetitions, and want to dismiss them and get to the overall sense of the Sutta. There are four level...
by Sam Vara
Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Love is in the air!
Replies: 9
Views: 935

Re: Love is in the air!

Several years ago, an Ajahn at our monastery introduced an all-night sitting by saying:


"The moon is full, the night is young, and I'm in the mood for love"!
by Sam Vara
Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:47 am
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.17 Acela Sutta: To the Clothless Ascetic
Replies: 43
Views: 6578

Re: SN 12.17 Acela Sutta: To the Clothless Ascetic

Mike and Retro,

Thank you for your replies. I thought it was as you say, but appreciate your confirmations.