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by Pondera
Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:21 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

That is a condition of God. That is an effect of God. If it were a condition of (or on) God, God would depend on it for his existence. Yes, but there is no reality in which there is no conditioned phenomena, hence, god is dependent upon it. Cause and effect goes both ways; there is no effect withou...
by Pondera
Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:36 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Greetings Bundokji, That originality of the "sin" can still be removed by Jesus, no? Sin, in general terms, is that which goes against the will of God. Original sin is by virtue of being "born of Adam". It is inherent in all. Jesus was not born of Adam, as he is an aspect of God...
by Pondera
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:40 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Well if god is the creator of the universe and life, then god is not unconditioned is it? The unconditioned is found at the foundation of all conditioned phenomenon. Thus God is the foundation of all conditioned phenomenon. That is a condition of God. That is an effect of God. If it were a conditio...
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Greetings, That is the mental fabrication yes, but I am willing to dance..; So god is not the creator of the universe and life? Warm regards, Peter Me too. Let’s dance. To answer your question. I never said that. Your move. Well if god is the creator of the universe and life, then god is not uncond...
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

PeterC86 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:02 am
Pondera wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:22 am Consciousness is conditioned. God is unconditioned.
Greetings,

That is the mental fabrication yes, but I am willing to dance..;

So god is not the creator of the universe and life?

Warm regards,
Peter
Me too. Let’s dance.

To answer your question. I never said that. Your move.
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:33 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Greetings Pondera, What are your views on salvation by Jesus only, Paul - if I might ask? It's a pretty complex situation from the context of the Bible, because depending on who is speaking, and when, they'll mention or omit certain things - e.g. baptism. But foremost I believe that to accept Jesus...
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

I think things evolved out of the unconditioned. I think this is not in line with Theravada. So you think Nibbana is a thing otherwise things can't evolve from nothing. An infinite, unconditioned awareness has the power to bring finite, conditioned beings and things into existence. The real questio...
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:22 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Greetings, This is nonsense. It's like saying that my ideas and thoughts about you are SarathW. That your ideas and thoughts about me are retrofuturist. Up your game mate. Metta, Paul. :) SarathW and Paul are mental constructs. If stranger see us they will think we are men (as per his mental constr...
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:38 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Ceisiwr wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:54 pm
sphairos wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:53 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:38 pm

Objectively so, as far as these things can be objective.
If you say so :anjali:
I wouldn't call a system of thought with kamma, rebirth, gods and ritual secular.
Is ritual a part of the Buddha’s teachings? Rites too, maybe?
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:36 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

I'd say Paul has handled it much better and no doubt his Buddhist practice helped in this regard. Definitely. It happens often among Western Buddhists. It also happens often in Buddhist scholars' circles, as well as among Indologists, Sinologists, Confucian, and Dao scholars. Many "find God&qu...
by Pondera
Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:03 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Christian-Buddhism?
Replies: 876
Views: 20631

Re: Christian-Buddhism?

Greetings Peter, In another topic, I saw that you wrote that "God is unconditioned", though this is not correct either, because that would mean that Nibbana is God, which is not the case, because God is dependent upon you conceiving him/her/it. That is why the Buddha is not Nibbana. Now y...
by Pondera
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:37 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Word Association Game
Replies: 11976
Views: 1543304

Re: Word Association Game

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by Pondera
Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:05 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Kalama and Udakka did not know Rupa Jhana
Replies: 31
Views: 1229

Re: Kalama and Udakka did not know Rupa Jhana

The question is can rupa jhana proper even be cultivated without the abandoning of the hinderances? Can the hindrances even be abandoned without right effort and right mindfulness? The jhāna forumulas specifically talk about abandoning hindrances, but I don't see anything specifically Buddhist abou...
by Pondera
Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:16 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Kalama and Udakka did not know Rupa Jhana
Replies: 31
Views: 1229

Re: Kalama and Udakka did not know Rupa Jhana

Why wasn’t he able to end the fermentations under the teachings of the two teachers? Because of a lack of insight, because at that time he was steeped in their doctrines (views). Hmm. This would suggest that “wrong” samadhi could still be rupa jhana proper, albeit without the effective causal power...
by Pondera
Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:48 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Kalama and Udakka did not know Rupa Jhana
Replies: 31
Views: 1229

Re: Kalama and Udakka did not know Rupa Jhana

If it’s the case that Alara Kalama knew of the jhanas and possibly taught them to Gautama, I think we have to wonder what was different in Gautama’s case such that, upon emerging from the fourth jhana, he was able to develop the three super knowledges (including the ending of the fermentations). Wh...