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- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:43 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
I understand / I know that clinging to feelings lead to ‚I myself‘ - thoughts which lead to suffering (the more those concepts get stronger). But the very notion of I am (and the accompanying feelings) is / are an existential fact. I am. And I am writing you right now. There is that notion, and its...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:29 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Is the nature of the mind is ignorance?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 724
Re: Is the nature of the mind is ignorance?
Sounds like Buddha-nature Yes, but what about this, from AN 1.49: "Luminous, monks, is the mind. And it is freed from incoming defilements. The well-instructed disciple of the noble ones discerns that as it actually is present, which is why I tell you that — for the well-instructed disciple of...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:24 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Disrespecting Vipassana
- Replies: 135
- Views: 5829
Re: Disrespecting Vipassana
No you didn't. You said... 'Jainism?' I thought you meant you'd never heard of it (it's an ancient religion from India) or am I being obtuse 😉 You knew what I was asking. For some reason you persist in being unpleasant. I think you'll find that a quick read through of the thread will show you that ...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: Theravāda for Beginners
- Topic: What makes Theravada conservative?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 278
Re: What makes Theravada conservative?
Maybe not in the political sense, but what makes it conservative compared to other sects like Zen? Theravāda rejects the later Mahāyāna texts as they consider the suttas to be Buddhavacana and enough for awakening. Its also a tradition which was known for its textual analysis. Closely following tex...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:10 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
What one directly experiences are feelings dependent on contact. I don’t think that qualities inhere an object. I know that speaking of an object means also speaking of qualities. You think of qualities without an object. Such is not observable. Or did you ever see ‚yellow‘ without a surface that r...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:09 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
The Theravādin view is that there is no self. If you find it illogical or not is a different matter. Since we are in the CT sub-forum, that view is taken as a given. As authoritative. But where it is stated that there is no self? Out of the two sutta what contain the word vibhajjavādo*, one says th...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:55 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
Yes and that is most important. The attribute no - self applies to. ‚There is no self‘ applies to nothing. One could easily think it would mean: no one exists / there is no ‚doer‘, no one who suffers and no one who could change his way of living no one who could achieve something. No-self applies t...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:52 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
that the sabbe dhamma anatta could get revealed also for me. I am curious how does people get from sabbe dhamma anatta a notion that there is no self to begin with. I think it is not much i am asking here from how easy i am told to go away. Sabbe dhammā anattā covers everything, both conditioned an...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:50 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
No that was arguing / showing in favour to let go that kind of conceptualizing. That’s because ‘more truth’ is beyond thoughts. And I would like to point to that perspective/ state of mind somehow. From my perspective it’s just not helpful to state or to imply qualities without an object. Only more...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
I currently focus on Advaita. It's because I've practised both Advaita and Theravada that I understand the differences between them. You, along with another prolific poster here, want to make Theravada sound like a version of Advaita, which it clearly isn't. :thumbsup: This is a good approach. It i...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:45 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
Same goes to user DNS and user Ceiswir. This is the Classical Theravada section, which has strict guidelines to not argue against the core principles of Classical Theravada. In other sections of the forum it is okay to present other interpretations or engage in debate. I actually don't have a probl...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:39 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Disrespecting Vipassana
- Replies: 135
- Views: 5829
Re: Disrespecting Vipassana
Maybe if you'd taken the time to ask a half decent question instead of a one word post I might have done. I asked why it’s Jainism 🤷🏻♂️ No you didn't. You said... 'Jainism?' I thought you meant you'd never heard of it (it's an ancient religion from India) or am I being obtuse 😉 You knew what I was...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:03 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
It’s like arguing that Jesus was an atheist Marxist.Spiny Norman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:59 pmExactly.
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:57 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 317
- Views: 11087
Re: Identity View
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:48 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Disrespecting Vipassana
- Replies: 135
- Views: 5829
Re: Disrespecting Vipassana
I asked why it’s JainismBrokenBones wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Maybe if you'd taken the time to ask a half decent question instead of a one word post I might have done.