dear forums ,

Are there any sutta that directly stated the sotapanna attained nibbana , sees nibbana , realised nibbana and take nibbana as it object of meditation ?

SarathW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:42 am Vipassana means Satipathana.
Satipathana all about internal and present moment experience.

What is external then ?

confusedlayman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:34 am when sotapanna realize nibbana, it is same nibbana of arhant ... only difference is for sota, it is 1 sec glimpse.. but for arahant it is 24 x 7 life time.. im talking about path moment, not frutation moment

Pls provide sutta reference where sotapanna realize or attain nibbana ?


Thanks

confusedlayman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:32 am no more aggreegates arising expierence and annhilation experience are same because both ways it is non experience of anything (complete end of stress)

You might want to refer to DN1 before you make such statement . And dont misrepresent the Buddha , it is not good to misrepresent him .

on the other hand it does not means annihilation . Because there wasn't anything to annihilate anyway. No , because annihilation is to annihilate the aggregates where the annihilationist schools posited that death is the end, there is no afterlife, no soul, no rebirth, no karma, and death is that s...

on the other hand it does not means annihilation .

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Isnt that the Buddha made a mistake by advising his disciples to practise asubha meditation and resulted in mass suicides ?
Buddha didnt foresee the dangers of asubha practice could bring .

samseva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:07 pm
No, because nirodha-samāpatti is a temporary meditative attainment (after the arūpa-jhāna of neither-perception-nor-non-perception).

Yes, that does throw a new light on it. Much clearer! My rudimentary Pali stumbled over the frequent repetitions of vaddhati in the first bit, making it a real mess. I'll put this alongside the Pali and B.B.'s translation, and see how I get on! Much appreciated, s. :anjali: You are welcome . Glad i...

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It still doesn't explain why both translators use " life" rather than "these ten", but it certainly makes sense. Hi Sam Vara , perhaps the parallel text is much clearer . Bhikkhus , when one who grows in five way grows , the noble disciple grows in way that grows nobly . And he ...

You have to calm down your mind and read carefully . You are over stressed .
Lol no readings here refer to when you are fully engaged in meditation .