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by TRobinson465
Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:01 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Greetings, I don't see it quite as grim as that. I see from your member ID that you've been a member here since 2018. As such, you've never had to concern yourself with the purges here in 2014/15, nor presumably prior to that at E-Sangha in 2007/08 where Dharma policing and the insta-banning of any...
by TRobinson465
Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:26 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

3.j. Excessive posting against core Theravada principles, including kamma, rebirth, the awakening of the Buddha will not be allowed except in great rebirth thread and other topics where it may be on-topic, but not in other areas of the forum. I think this was a well thought out rule. including "exc...
by TRobinson465
Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:08 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Greetings, although it seems that your inability or perhaps unwillingness to connect whats been said from the entire thread to Secular Buddhism and instead just dismissing it as "going forth" dhamma is probably why this problem has never been solved. As I've said above, the member who is the basis ...
by TRobinson465
Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:40 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Greetings, What i asked was how did you get the idea that denying rebirth completely was one of the teachings the Buddha reserved for monastics This was not said. You are fake news, which is ironic given that you compared me to Fox News. Similarly, your inability to comprehend what I actually said,...
by TRobinson465
Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:33 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Greetings, The idea that the Buddha taught "Both" an intricate metaphor that doesnt actually exist and a literal thing that does exist is the Mahayana concept of non-duality on steroids. Two suttas have already been provided which show conclusively that different audiences were taught differently. ...
by TRobinson465
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:10 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Trolling also has to be considered. If someone has been a member here for years yet at every chance derails threads by revisiting a topic that A) we all know where they stand on and B) they know where everyone else stands, then it looks less like honest debating and more like attention seeking trol...
by TRobinson465
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

There is also a difference between "allowing" for both views and actively preaching that only one is right, which again, is what the OP is actually complaining about. in the texts the Buddha actually does talk about rebirth and the 31 planes both metaphorically and literally, although if you look at...
by TRobinson465
Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:55 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

To me this current hoopla has nothing whatsoever to do with Secular Buddhism or even "denying rebirth" - it is these two sets of teachings being misrepresented and pitted against each other - the Dhamma taught "to those gone forth" and the Dhamma taught to "white-clothed laypeople". I'm legitimatel...
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:39 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

I know. i was saying what because i dont understand why you put that as a response to my statement. Its not the role of Buddhists to defile themselves defending non-Buddhists. In summary, it is bad practise to label Noble Disciples "secular Buddhists". It makes the Internet Theravadin group look li...
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:20 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

DooDoot wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:13 am
TRobinson465 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:11 am What?
This is also part of the Triple Refuge, as the monks chant in the evening.
I know. i was saying what because i dont understand why you put that as a response to my statement.
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:19 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

you basically admit you made up the "official" passage here. this was really all i needed to answer my question. The above appears poorly argued and arguably verges on false speech. The above quote from the internet is the official refuge in Theravada. How could anyone try to dispute this? :shrug: ...
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:11 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Yes I'm well aware that that is in the morning and evening chanting. I know those passages quite well and actually can recite it by heart, including the particular part that you call the "official" quote, being somebody who used to chant these every single day in a monastery. This doesn't explain h...
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:58 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

What exactly makes the "official" refuge of the triple gem that everybody is supposed to know "the" official quote? Oh dear. The Threefold Refuge https://youtu.be/iwh2skDTCnk?t=265 Yes I'm well aware that that is in the morning and evening chanting. I know those passages quite well and actually can...
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:40 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

:goodpost: :lol: Its not a good post to claim to be a Buddhist but unable to quote the refuge in the Triple Gem. you never answered my question in the post several posts above. What exactly makes the "official" refuge of the triple gem that everybody is supposed to know "the" official quote? If you...
by TRobinson465
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:49 am
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: limit the influence of secular buddhism
Replies: 178
Views: 7837

Re: limit the influence of secular buddhism

Your accusation is weak. So if you have taken refuge in the Triple Gem, please post what the official Theravada refuge is. Thank you :smile: :popcorn: Just out of curiosity. Is the "official" theravada refuge something that is actually backed by the suttas or at least by some kind standard Theravad...