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by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Meditation Instructions
Replies: 6
Views: 271

Re: Meditation Instructions

Greetings appamaada, It's a very interesting perspective you're taking here. It's my contention that understanding how any two components of paticcasamuppada relate to each other is enough to clarify the principle of idappaccayata (refer to MN 9 for this -- right view can be understood as seeing the...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Meditation Instructions
Replies: 6
Views: 271

Re: Meditation Instructions

Greetings, It's this phenomenon, craving, that we want to watch out for. True to a point, and probably more than sufficient when you're not in formal meditation, but if you've already gotten to "tanha", then how much of paticcasamuppada has already slipped you by without due attention and ...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3535

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings, The following Sutta, in its entirely seems relevant, so I'm going to share it (with a bit of highlighting for emphasis). At Savatthi. There the Blessed One said, "I tell you, monks: It is for one who knows & sees that there is the ending of the effluents. For one who knows what &...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:58 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which disagreements on practice and doctrine are actually aDhammic?
Replies: 41
Views: 1748

Re: Which disagreements on practice and doctrine are actually aDhammic?

Greetings Mike, Interesting topic. Is it the case that certain approaches or interpretations are aDhammic, or are participants just arguing about their preferred interpretation of the suttas (or other texts) and approach to practice? Personally, I think "aDhammic" is probably too tight a l...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:31 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Ajahn Martin is Despondent
Replies: 66
Views: 3719

Re: Ajahn Martin is Despondent

Greetings Mystik,

It's a good point. I think a lot of people gravitate towards the Dhamma as a means of hiding from past trauma, and I don't think that's restricted to monks either.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3535

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings Sam, I would of course prefer the assessment to be against the standards of the Dhamma, but in the absence of Right View I would consider rejoicing justified if a practice alleviated suffering, helped people be nicer to others, or moved them towards an establishment of Right View . If by t...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Idappaccayatā
Replies: 6
Views: 334

Re: Idappaccayatā

Greetings Robert, Thus this specific conditionality dependent origination is deep and difficult to understand, even intellectually. Yet, so the Pali says, it is not an impossible task. It wouldn't want to be, otherwise the Buddha is a liar and his Dhamma is worldly. Be sure to explain how Abhidhamma...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3535

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings Sam, And if they fare well, then that would be a matter for rejoicing, wouldn't it? Assessed against the Dhamma, or assessed against their own standards (e.g. "feels good", "relaxing", "a good session")? If Right View is not established, then what's the practi...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Idappaccayatā
Replies: 6
Views: 334

Idappaccayatā

split from https://www.dhammawheel.com/mcp.php?action=split&f=13&i=main&mode=topic_view&start=0&t=46750 Greetings Robert, Greetings Robert, Well it says "rise and fall" . And? There's no idappaccayatā in recognising that phenomena arise and pass away. Metta, Paul. :) W...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Abhidhamma is the road to eternal puthujjanaism
Replies: 39
Views: 1337

Re: Why Abhidhamma is the road to eternal puthujjanaism

Greetings Robert, Well it says "rise and fall" . And? There's no idappaccayatā simply in recognising that phenomena arise and pass away. It is like this sutta: Mahāniddesa 42 Fake Sutta - proto-commentary smuggled into the Canon before the Councils rightly put at end to such sectarian inse...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Abhidhamma is the road to eternal puthujjanaism
Replies: 39
Views: 1337

Re: Why Abhidhamma is the road to eternal puthujjanaism

Greetings Robert,
robertk wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:44 am Dear Paul
this is the Saṅkhata-lakkhaṇa sutta. Is there a difference between this and Abhidhamma?
Yes, much.

Is there any purpose in this line in inquiry?

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3535

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings Sam, But it is less than persuasive for changing my view on this, for the following two reasons. 1) There may be more of a personal impact if the Buddha's words were augmented by a technique. That's a matter of personal investigation rather than it being self-evidently or analytically untr...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Abhidhamma is the road to eternal puthujjanaism
Replies: 39
Views: 1337

Re: Why Abhidhamma is the road to eternal puthujjanaism

Greetings Robert, Not sure why you dhammas are 'reified' in Abhidhamma. Is a response required to this? It seems completely obvious to me as someone who has read Abhidhammattha Sangaha, Visuddhimagga and Buddhism In Daily Life by Nina Van Gorkom. I'm sure you've read those and many more. As for mome...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3535

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings Sam, And beyond that, the deeper question of whether the sola scriptura approach is based on anything more than circular reasoning. Not circular, and it's pretty straightforward. - Become established in Right View - Become independent in the teaching - Follow the Buddha instructions, backe...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:54 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Ajahn Martin is Despondent
Replies: 66
Views: 3719

Re: Ajahn Martin is Despondent

Greeting, I'm listening now to this man's words and I have nothing but respect for him and how authentic he is. What he is describing now is precisely what I was talking about when I recently said, "I'd already become disillusioned with the institution of modern monasticism, its sectarianism, a...