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by Spiny Norman
Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:50 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

There is no CT that comes or has come to a conclusion. It’s only people / beings that can come to a conclusion. And there is a difference between presenting what others did say or did conclude and what one self understood and can thereby contribute. The focus here is on understanding the Theravada ...
by Spiny Norman
Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:39 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

No I'm saying that terminology is all a matter of convention, but that terms refer to events or things that can be agreed on by reasonable people as existing or happening. Your own comparison of sunrise is a case in point. Since it's pointless talking with someone uninterested in reason when it con...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:47 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

There is a self - there is no self - extreme philosophical standpoints / the two naturally occurring extreme concepts of understanding existence (dependent origination of the skandhas) which one can avoid. The skandhas arise in dependence upon conditions, but the self is only a view. "Sabbe dh...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is the nature of the mind is ignorance?
Replies: 31
Views: 725

Re: Is the nature of the mind is ignorance?

Sounds like Buddha-nature Yes, but what about this, from AN 1.49: "Luminous, monks, is the mind. And it is freed from incoming defilements. The well-instructed disciple of the noble ones discerns that as it actually is present, which is why I tell you that — for the well-instructed disciple of...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Eternity
Replies: 113
Views: 1358

Re: Eternity

And can you please tell whether koshas(sheaths) and khandas(aggregates) are one and the same? so i could then say whether it also apply to khadnas being the self according to the hinduism. In the Upanishads the koshas "enclose" the Atman. The koshas are not-Self. In the suttas the khandas...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:17 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

auto wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:11 pmbullies..
:zzz:
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Immortality
Replies: 22
Views: 392

Re: Immortality

thepea wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:58 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:50 pm
cappuccino wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:03 pm All men's souls are immortal, but the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine.

Socrates
Random quote which is nothing to do with Theravada, it's inappropriate here.
Can Theravadists not use the word soul?
Cappucino has no interest in Theravada.
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:00 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

auto wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:58 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:57 pm Because your views and Advaita are the same, or some forms of Mahayana that teach there is a true self.
what views?
:shrug:
Now you're just trolling.
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:59 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

Ceisiwr wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:57 pm
auto wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:55 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:53 pm I'd suggest you go to an Advaita forum.
Why? you keep suggesting it for many times, but not telling why
Because your views and Advaita are the same, or some forms of Mahayana that teach there is a true self. Your views don’t align with the suttas and Theravada.
Exactly.
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:53 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

I currently focus on Advaita. It's because I've practised both Advaita and Theravada that I understand the differences between them. You, along with another prolific poster here, want to make Theravada sound like a version of Advaita, which it clearly isn't. :thumbsup: This is a good approach. It i...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Immortality
Replies: 22
Views: 392

Re: Immortality

thepea wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:59 pm Is Buddha immortal?
The suttas don't specify what happens to an Arahant after death.
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Immortality
Replies: 22
Views: 392

Re: Immortality

cappuccino wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:03 pm All men's souls are immortal, but the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine.

Socrates
Random quote which is nothing to do with Theravada, it's inappropriate here.
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Eternity
Replies: 113
Views: 1358

Re: Eternity

cappuccino wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:55 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:54 pm I don't wish to understand your new-age nonsense.
Fine, ordinary person
See my signature.
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:46 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

cappuccino wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:44 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:43 pm Sabbe dhamma anatta.
The Discourse on the Not-self Characteristic

Anatta-lakkhana Sutta
Bhikkhus, form is not-self.
That supports "sabbe dhamma anatta".
by Spiny Norman
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 317
Views: 11099

Re: Identity View

cappuccino wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:11 pm
DNS wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:09 pm But you won't find the self or a soul in Theravada.
A quote from Buddha would suffice
Sabbe dhamma anatta.