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by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:05 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

This is an interesting point and start a new post with the Sutta quote "In the same way, friends, I do not say this 'I am' is the body,... consciousness, nor that it is other than the body,... consciousness. Yet with regard to the five groups of clinging, 'I am' comes to me, but I do not consi...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:48 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

SarathW wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:43 pm Buddhist Monks did not use cow urine to purify their minds but to clean robes I suppose.
Also cow dung is used as an analogy of the remaining scent of conceit - trying to wash it with cow dung, but the remaining scent persists.
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

I am sorry I missed your point. How is the cow connected to Puritanism? Could you simply explain your point? Hamas claims that imported red cows from the US, hence they launched their attack, which led to a campaign bordering genocide (another term for a purity of some sort) https://en.wikipedia.or...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

As David said some schools or sects are trying to put Buddhism into a box. I think most of us underestimate how much the Buddha knew, and why the subject of purity and its relationship to kamma can lead to vexation and even to madness. For example, using a "cow" frequently in the suttas a...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

Buddhism is different from other shramanic traditions precisely due to the assertion of anatta. In that sense, it is already isolated. And even austere practices can become just another self-grasping ego trip if one is not careful, and that is precisely why anatta is important. Hence, the middle wa...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

Political correctness with the theme of "Buddhism" or "Dhamma." Usually, Dhamma is preferred over Buddhism due to its non-sectarian connotations - as a universal law: "Only here is there purity" — that's what they say — "No other doctrines are pure" — so they...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:48 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

Anatta is not an obsession, and it’s really about analyzing the true nature of the experience of self. It’s not a process of establishing an identity. Otherwise, what you are describing would be some ridiculous pretense of “I am not here”. Buddhism doesn’t say “I am not here”. Buddhism says ‘there ...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

Anatta is not an obsession, and it’s really about analyzing the true nature of the experience of self. It’s not a process of establishing an identity. Otherwise, what you are describing would be some ridiculous pretense of “I am not here”. Buddhism doesn’t say “I am not here”. Buddhism says ‘there ...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:42 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

Rambutan wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:27 pm Not really.
Striving for, or obsessing over the concept of purity is just another way of establishing some sort of “me” to cling to.
On the other hand, emphasizing antta as the highest truth became a Buddhist obsession about the self.
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

Self-grasping; ego trip. Interesting! In modern psychology, there are two major school of thoughts in relation to the concept of the ego. Freud for example, considered religion to be a neurosis of some sort, and recommended the strengthening of the rational ego. Jung on the other hand called for in...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Re: Buddhist Puritanism

What is Buddhist Puritanism? Is this something you find in Tipitaka? What would be Buddhist Puritanism is the subject of inquiry if such a thing apply to the Buddha's teachings. Certain terms do not have to correspond perfectly to the Tipitaka, otherwise, that would define your approach to Puritani...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On Nimittas
Replies: 33
Views: 1797

Re: On Nimittas

Another approach to nimittas has to do with differentiating correlation from causation - through examining the two conditions necessary for a "cause" to be acknowledged. A famous example about confusing correlation and causation is seeing a black cat, then having a car accident, to conclud...
by Bundokji
Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:05 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddhist Puritanism
Replies: 46
Views: 806

Buddhist Puritanism

Venerables and friends, If we were to coin the term "Buddhist Puritanism" what would he the most accurate description of it? By definition, puritanism oozes with search for purity. In our search, it can refer to "purifying the mind" from detriments, or the original teachings in i...
by Bundokji
Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: And why is it called “perception”?
Replies: 12
Views: 459

Re: And why is it called “perception”?

I understand the sequence to be inline with the elements - linking the elements to kasinas through imagination. I understand blue to be water - which is exchangeable with the earth element as per DN11. I understand yellow to be ascetics or Brahmans. I understand red to be fire or intuition, and i un...
by Bundokji
Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Access concentration
Replies: 5
Views: 316

Access concentration

Venerables and friends, I was wondering if i should open this thread here or in one of the meditation forums. I decided it to open it here because the focus will be on terminology, their relationship to the doctrine and their applicability to practice. Most of us might have encountered the term &quo...