It cannot occur in a stable first jhana. Just as other obstacles cannot arise with a stable first jhana, and even more so in the second, third and fourth.
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- Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:57 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
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Re: Jhana
- Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:42 am
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
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Re: Jhana
Usually breath and brahma viharas, usually appreciation works best for me out of all brahma viharas. The other brahma viharas are better for tackling hindrances at deeper levels like fear of dying which can arise at deep absorption levels. I've had infinite space a few times, although rarely, by fo...
- Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:08 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9466
Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
The ritual is not important, it is important to gain faith in the Three Jewels and accept the correct (buddhist) views.
- Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:22 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Dry out that which is past, let there be nothing for you in the future
- Replies: 2
- Views: 565
Re: Dry out that which is past, let there be nothing for you in the future
Dry out that which is past, let there be nothing for you in the future Sn 4.15 This is a line from one of my favourite suttas. I would be interested in people's interpretations of this particularly where he says "let there be nothing for you in the future". For one who has reached the end...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:15 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: What do the suttas say about kamma?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1618
Re: What do the suttas say about kamma?
It is also important to know that the fruits of kamma can ripen with different strengths depending on the state of mind https://suttacentral.net/an3.100/en/thanissaro
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:12 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: What do the suttas say about kamma?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1618
Re: What do the suttas say about kamma?
A good book on this topic https://www.dhammatalks.net/Books8/Pa_A ... _Kamma.pdf
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:05 pm
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Kundalini Yoga
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4464
Re: Kundalini Yoga
The suttas speak of vitality in the sense of health, strength, energy. But you have not given specific and clear examples about the chakras and energy channels and even more so the practices associated with them. Because there is no such thing in the suttas. These practices are in the hindu and tant...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:10 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
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Re: Jhana
"Where sensual pleasures cease, and those who have thoroughly ended sensual pleasures meditate, I say: ‘Clearly those venerables are desireless, extinguished, crossed over, and gone beyond in that respect.’ If someone should say, ‘I do not know or see where sensual pleasures cease’, they shoul...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:08 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
- Views: 280643
Re: Jhana
Clearly lay people who are not celibate are able to attain once-return which requires jhanas. What else do you need to prove? From the suttas it seems that the jhana are reached by those laypeople who are inclined to renounce sensual pleasures. And the formula which says that a person develops the ...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:11 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
- Views: 280643
Re: Jhana
"Where sensual pleasures cease, and those who have thoroughly ended sensual pleasures meditate, I say: ‘Clearly those venerables are desireless, extinguished, crossed over, and gone beyond in that respect.’ If someone should say, ‘I do not know or see where sensual pleasures cease’, they shoul...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:40 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
- Views: 280643
Re: Jhana
Wrong. The sutta I referenced refers to the 3 trainings. The next sutta that comes after that one defines the 3 trainings. But this does not prove that in order to attain the first jhana, it is enough only to distance oneself from sensual desires and unwholesome mental states, only for the period o...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:16 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
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Re: Jhana
No such thing. The Buddha defined Right Concentration as the 4 jhanas. The only other types of concentration come AFTER 4 jhanas. You confuse samma samadhi, as a factor of the Way, and samadhi, as mental capacity. And there are also aggregate of samadhi, which include the right efforts and the righ...
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:06 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
- Views: 280643
Re: Jhana
If you about this: "moderately accomplished in concentration", it is not about jhana, but about other lower types of samadhi.
The fruit of the sotapanna + the first jhana = the fruit of the anagami https://suttacentral.net/an3.94/en/sujato
The fruit of the sotapanna + the first jhana = the fruit of the anagami https://suttacentral.net/an3.94/en/sujato
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:47 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
- Views: 280643
- Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:28 pm
- Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
- Topic: Jhana
- Replies: 810
- Views: 280643
Re: Jhana
Sensual desires are one of the hindrances for attaining the first jhana. Yes, when they arise in meditation. Do you have sex when you meditate? No. It is about the complete removal of the mind from sensual pleasures in life, and not only during meditation. If it were enough to get rid of sensual de...