Buddhist Metal Band

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Buddhist Metal Band

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For all you Buddhist metal heads out there i came across this band called The Firstborn. There new album The Noble Search is based on Buddhist scriptures. Check them out! Also check out From The Worst Horses Mouth: Heavy Metal Dharma Thunder http://www.shambhalasun.com/sunspace/?p=10157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.thenoblesearch.com/menu.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/unclenchedfists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:namaste:
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

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:D I will check that out tomorrow :D
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Aaarrrggg, the MySpace music player won't work on my computer at work! I'll have to wait until later at home to check it out!

Patience.












Patience.
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Re: Buddhist Metal Band

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I will have to check this out. Metal and Buddhism just don't seem to go together, like Christian rock.
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Thaibebop wrote:I will have to check this out. Metal and Buddhism just don't seem to go together, like Christian rock.
Who says? This way the Buddhadhamma reaches a wider audience who would not have normally come into contact with it.

:namaste:
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

- BB
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:jawdrop: The Firstborn are from Portugal, they live 20 miles from me :)

I will listen to their songs and post back.
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bodom_bad_boy wrote:
Thaibebop wrote:I will have to check this out. Metal and Buddhism just don't seem to go together, like Christian rock.
Who says? This way the Buddhadhamma reaches a wider audience who would not have normally come into contact with it.

:namaste:
I agree, it just escapes my imagination screaming the Dhamma through power cords. :thinking:
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Growls and pig squeals on the burden of dukkha?--Carcass's 'This Mortal Coil' from album Heartwork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u0G2FVEnwI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nate Demontigny (of band Leukorrhea) relates metal lyrics to impermanence, and talks about his discovery of buddhism:
http://theworsthorse.com/nated/nated-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Is this a retelling from the Canon?

"--Raj asked Buddha, “Reverend Sir, how come my mind wanders around to forbidden places and yours does not?” “Sir, how come I do back-biting and you don't?” “Sir, how come I don't have compassion for others, while you have?” All the questions that Raj asked were of similar nature.

Buddha replied, “Raj, your questions are good, but it seems to me that in 24 hours from now you will die.”

Raj got up and started getting ready to go.

Buddha asked, “Raj, what happened? You came with such vitality now you are totally dismayed.”

Raj said, “Sir, my mother told me that your words are true and are to be held in high esteem. So please let me go so that I may meet my family members, friends and others before I die.”

Buddha said, “But there are still 24 hours. Sit, we will talk more.”

Raj said, “Reverend Sir, please let me go. I must meet my people before I die.”

So Raj left and went home. Met his mother and started crying. The word spread. His friends came; other family members came; neighbors came. Everyone was crying with Raj. Time flew.

Raj was busy either crying or counting the hours. When only 3 hours were left, he pulled up a cot and lay down. Although the Death had not yet arrived, poor Raj was kind of dead.

When only an hour was left, Buddha walked in.

Buddha said to Raj, “Raj, why are you lying down on the cot with your closed eyes. Death is still an hour away. And an hour is 60 minutes long. That's a lot of time. Get up, let us talk.”

Raj: “Sir, what is it now that you want to talk? Just let me die peacefully.”

Buddha: “Raj, there is still time and our talk will get over before the 'ordained' time.”

Raj: “Okay, Sir . . . say what you have to say.”

Buddha: “In the past 24 hours, did you curse anyone?”

Raj: “How could I curse anyone? I was all the time thinking about death.”

Buddha: “In the past 24 hours, did you think or wish ill for anyone?”

Raj: “How could I do that? I was all the time thinking about death.”

Buddha: “In the past 24 hours, did you steal?”

Raj: “Sir, how can you even ask that? I was all the time thinking about death.”

Finally the Buddha said, “Raj, I don't know who has to die and who has to live. But understanding the ultimate truth — i.e. death — can be very enlightening. All the questions you posed to me have been answered by yourself because of the awareness of death that you experienced during the past 24 hours. The difference between me and you is that you were aware of death for the past 24 hours, I have been aware for the past 24 years.”
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First Tibetan Buddhist death metal front man? He'll have some trippy riffage.
i don't know if the movie is finished, but there's a trailer linked below.

http://www.musictibet.com/news/2009/mee ... ician.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Documentary trailer: http://www.handcutfilms.com/news/journey-of-a-dream/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I keep hearing that Tibetans have a hard time understanding depression, because nobody there suffered from it. Is that changing with the growth of their cities?
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Mellow polyrhythms over deep, soothing maraspiel --Amen by Entombed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfIBzc5e7LA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The Tibetan's band (from the documentary above) is Avatara. They're still in the studio with a few tracks on their website http://www.myspace.com/avatara" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
There are parts I like, enough that I'll look up the album on youtube and probably check their progress in a few years to see if they've learned how to wow me.
Interview with Shenpenn Khymsar http://preciousmetal.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/3362/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Suffocation's 'Dismal Dream' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZIyV7sf ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) "is" about the death of a Deva and a subsequent arrival in unpleasantville.

Death tunes:
'Zero Tolerance' describes...I don't know, something about pubbekatahetuvada and kamma. I'm full of it but this is good metal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqNXrkvmk_o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
'Without Judgement' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNl6ZwD5VA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) "is" about the first noble truth and the benefits of satipatthana meditation?
'Flesh and the Power it Holds' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-HOAE0j ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) is on the second noble truth. Cf. AN 1.11 "Bhikkhus, I do not know of a thing more conducive to the arising of non-arisen sensual desires and the development of arisen sensual desires as an agreeable object. Unwise reflection of an agreeable object arouses non-arisen sensual desires and develops arisen sensual desires. This is the first."
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What metal head wouldn't appreciate this piece by Gurdjieff and crew, arranged here for Classical guitar by Fabio Mittino. Gurdjieff passed through a few monasteries in his day, and his teachings...were likely influenced by Buddhism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0CYiYoGh8Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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lojong1 wrote:Death tunes:
'Zero Tolerance' describes...I don't know, something about pubbekatahetuvada and kamma. I'm full of it but this is good metal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqNXrkvmk_o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
'Without Judgement' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNl6ZwD5VA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) "is" about the first noble truth and the benefits of satipatthana meditation?
'Flesh and the Power it Holds' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-HOAE0j ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) is on the second noble truth. Cf. AN 1.11 "Bhikkhus, I do not know of a thing more conducive to the arising of non-arisen sensual desires and the development of arisen sensual desires as an agreeable object. Unwise reflection of an agreeable object arouses non-arisen sensual desires and develops arisen sensual desires. This is the first."
Good call. Chuck Schuldiner was well aware of the dhamma, even if he didn't know it was the dhamma. Some of Tomas Haake's lyrics for Meshuggah are another good example.

So many lyrics align with the dhamma. It's kind of cool. However, in most cases, there is no mention of specific Buddhist concepts, probably because the writer doesn't know of the connection and they have no knowledge of Buddhism. But that doesn't mean it isn't dhamma.
“By breaking the root of unknowing, it smashes the mechanism of deeds, and drops the thunderbolt of knowledge on the taking up of consciousnesses.” Thag 6.8
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'Without Judgement' by Death-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNl6ZwD5VA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Schuldiner's lyric: "Without judgement, perception would increase."

Goenka (Satipatthana Discourses, p.55)--"In Kaayaanupassanaa the stage of 'atthi kaayo' ti came when the body became merely a mass of subatomic particles, with no evaluation, or judgement: sa~n~naa no longer recognized it as human or animal, male or female, beautiful or ugly. It became just body as body, beyond differentiation. Similarly sensations (vedanaa) are now seen just as sensations, neither pleasant nor unpleasant. There is no judgement, no evaluation, no sa~n~naa. The awareness now established is of sensation as mere sensation."...
http://books.google.ca/books?id=7INYFwP ... nt&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Semantic Gremlin: "Perception 'is' sanna and sanna is judgement and without sanna, sanna would increase!
Say you're in a cover band that Dhammafies other people's lyrics (changing words, not [much] meaning), what are the Pali options here for Chuck's "perception" if judgement is sanna? I mean, what increases/improves as sanna weakens?
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