And therefore, God does not exist!

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And therefore, God does not exist!

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From http://www.tektonics.org/guest/300proof.html :

COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
If I say something doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t have a cause.
I say the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
I define God to be X.
Since I cannot conceive of X, X must not exist.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
I can’t conceive of a perfect God.
One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
God doesn’t exist.
God, if existing, is either necessary or unnecessary.
God is not necessary, therefore God must be unnecessary.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF MIRACLES (I)
My aunt had cancer.
The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
My aunt prayed to God, but she died from her cancer anyway.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
Person X, a well-known theist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
In my younger days I thought I was religious.
Now I’m a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, atheist jerk.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF FEAR
If God exists then I’m going to Hell.
I’m not afraid of Hell. New Jersey is much worse.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
[Arbitrary passage from OT]
[Arbitrary passage from NT]
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid theists -- it's too complicated for you to understand. God doesn’t exist whether you like it or not.
Therefore, doesn’t God exist.

ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys -- you're obviously very well read. But I read the Skeptics Annotated Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God exists. I don’t feel him in my heart, and you are lying when you say you can feel him and see him working in your life. John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth?" That just proves what a evil, sadistic loser your God is.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF BELIEF
If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
I don’t believe in God.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION
See my fist?
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

PARENTAL ARGUMENT
My mommy and daddy told me that God doesn’t exist.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
There is a website that successfully argues for the non-existence of God.
Here is the URL.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
No one has ever refuted 1.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FALLIBILITY
Human reasoning is inherently flawed.
Therefore, there is no reasonable way to challenge a proposition.
I propose that God doesn’t exist.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
God doesn’t exist.
I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS
People who see images of bearded faces or virgins in things like tortillas are fruitcakes and represent the whole of theism.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM COMPLETE DEVASTATION
A plane crashed killing all 143 passengers and crew.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOHERENT BABBLE
See that person spazzing on the church floor babbling incoherently?
That represents theism as a whole.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PAROCHIALISM
God is supposedly everywhere.
I haven’t personally seen God.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS
Ask theists how the universe came to be.
Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
Continue process until the theist admits he doesn't know the answer to one of your questions.
You win!
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INEVITABILITY
I have proof that God doesn’t exist.
I won't bother to tell you what it is because, being theists, you would be hostile to the conclusion anyway.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

DISPROOF BY ANECDOTE
Those who believe in God say they can see Him.
If God exists, then He must be seen by everyone.
I haven’t seen God.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.
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I think that is meant to be satirical (?) because those are very poor arguments. I'll stick with Bertrand Russell.
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David N. Snyder wrote:I think that is meant to be satirical (?) because those are very poor arguments. I'll stick with Bertrand Russell.
Russell good; the above, not so much.
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Russell's arguments are good??
Eh?
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Well, I was writing devil's advocate arguments (actualy, god's advocate, which is far worse ;) ) until I reached the New Jersey one.

Properties of god:

1- Creator
2- All loving
3- All knowing
4- All powerful
5- Supreme Infinite

Properties 3 to 5 are self contradictory:

5- Take that infinite, form the set of all subsets of god. Its size is bigger. Contradiction. (If god was undivisable, all possible infinite array of gods would have a bigger size than god)

4- He can't create an object so heavy that even he can't lift. Contradiction.

3- He can't create a puzzle that even he can't solve. Contradiction.

Property 2 contradicts observation:

2- If he doesn't intervene to eliminate people's suffering, he is not all loving.
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The OP is definitely satirical, its spoofing common arguments FOR the existence of god . . . presumably with the intent of showing how flimsy they are?
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Feathers wrote:The OP is definitely satirical, its spoofing common arguments FOR the existence of god . . . presumably with the intent of showing how flimsy they are?
Or maybe she trying very hard to beat up arguments against the idea of a god.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

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“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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Greetings,
ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION
See my fist?
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

PARENTAL ARGUMENT
My mommy and daddy told me that God doesn’t exist.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.
:rofl:

Metta,
Retro. :)
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"Overcome the liar by truth." (Dhp 223)
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Let me recommend a serious Buddhist study of this subject:

Gunapala Dharmasiri: A Buddhist Critique of the Christian Concept of God, Colombo 1974

Abe Books offers some used copies:

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/a ... ri/page-1/
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Ah yes, it is a spoof of the theistic "arguments":

http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2011/03/l ... ology.html
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David N. Snyder wrote:Ah yes, it is a spoof of the theistic "arguments":

http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2011/03/l ... ology.html
No need for the inverted commas, David - they really are arguments, even if they are mostly pretty poor arguments.

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tiltbillings wrote:
Feathers wrote:The OP is definitely satirical, its spoofing common arguments FOR the existence of god . . . presumably with the intent of showing how flimsy they are?
Or maybe she trying very hard to beat up arguments against the idea of a god.
Yeah, beating up _lame_ arguments against the idea of God.
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Maybe the best way to prove there isn't a God is to live a better life and be a better person than the ones that have the strong belief in God, if you're not accomplishing that, your arguement is weak at best........

The buddha never made a blanket denial of any kind of God, in fact quite the opposite, He only denied that there is a God matching the characteristics outlined in Judeo Christian religion.
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Hello all,

"Buddhism and the God Idea" by Nyanaponika Thera
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... didea.html

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My belief in a non creator God is pretty much summed up in the Tao te Ching, as the TAO, I don't think it contradicts anything outlined by the Buddha, after all he affirmed the existence of the Deity Brahma, he just denied that he was the creator, perfect, or unchangingly eternal......

On another forum someone proposed that the Tao might be synonymous with Emptiness, its a little over my head as to just what emptiness is, but its one possibility.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

http://trickleupeconomictheory.blogspot.com/
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