Anicca and Stable Atoms.

[indian_buddhist]

The Buddha said all Conditioned things are subject to change. However there are stable Atoms which never decay and remain forever. If this is true then how is Anicca valid then?.

[waterchan]

What happens when this universe ends?

[indian_buddhist]

What happens when this universe ends?

There is no conclusive evidence as yet that the universe ends

[Mkoll]

I bet if you looked long enough at those atoms you'd find they aren't so stable after all.

[waterchan]

What happens when this universe ends?

There is no conclusive evidence as yet that the universe ends

But the theory is supported by both modern science and presented as a fact in the Buddha's teachings.

[tiltbillings]

The Buddha said all Conditioned things are subject to change. However there are stable Atoms which never decay and remain forever. If this is true then how is Anicca valid then?.

The question is: what "conditioned things" is the Buddha talking about? You should be able to enumerate all of them.

[waterchan]

The Buddha said all Conditioned things are subject to change. However there are stable Atoms which never decay and remain forever. If this is true then how is Anicca valid then?.

The question is: what "conditioned things" is the Buddha talking about? You should be able to enumerate all of them.

I will horribly murder anyone who gives away the answer this question.

[Goofaholix]

The Buddha said all Conditioned things are subject to change. However there are stable Atoms which never decay and remain forever. If this is true then how is Anicca valid then?.

The atoms may be stable but the molecules they form together with other atoms are not.

The point is can the mind put it's trust in a stable atom to provide lasting satisfaction, not likely.

[James the Giant]

There are no stable atoms. Where did you hear there are stable, eternal atoms? Even the building blocks of atoms, like protons and electrons, decay and change.

[chownah]

The Buddha said all Conditioned things are subject to change. However there are stable Atoms which never decay and remain forever. If this is true then how is Anicca valid then?.

The question is: what "conditioned things" is the Buddha talking about? You should be able to enumerate all of them.

I will horribly murder anyone who gives away the answer this question.

Would you please clarify this statement?
chownah

[tiltbillings]

Would you please clarify this statement?
chownah

What is to clarify? He'll likely slowly dismember you if you were to give away the answer to the question.

[indian_buddhist]

Would you please clarify this statement?
chownah

What is to clarify? He'll likely slowly dismember you if you were to give away the answer to the question.

How is this attitude different from Christians who argued with scientists and killed/persecuted them when they said that Earth was flat or with those Muslims who argue with scientists that Human Evolution is false ?.

Religion has to stand up with science otherwise Religion has no basis. Every sensible human will agree with me.

[indian_buddhist]

Coming back to the question, yes there are stable Atoms which (considering the progress of science till now) have shown to live on to forever. However some scientists have given a Theoretical argument of Proton Decay (which has not been shown to have conclusive evidence till now). If Proton Decay is proven by conclusive evidence then Buddha's assertion that all conditioned things will eventually decay would hold true.

[tiltbillings]

Would you please clarify this statement?
chownah

What is to clarify? He'll likely slowly dismember you if you were to give away the answer to the question.

How is this attitude different from Christians who argued with scientists and killed/persecuted them when they said that Earth was flat or with those Muslims who argue with scientists that Human Evolution is false ?.

Religion has to stand up with science otherwise Religion has no basis. Every sensible human will agree with me.

It's a joke, son, it's a joke. http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/itsajoke.wav

I noticed that you did not address my question: The question is: what "conditioned things" is the Buddha talking about? You should be able to enumerate all of them.

[indian_buddhist]

What is to clarify? He'll likely slowly dismember you if you were to give away the answer to the question.

How is this attitude different from Christians who argued with scientists and killed/persecuted them when they said that Earth was flat or with those Muslims who argue with scientists that Human Evolution is false ?.

Religion has to stand up with science otherwise Religion has no basis. Every sensible human will agree with me.

It's a joke, son, it's a joke. http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/itsajoke.wav

I noticed that you did not address my question: The question is: what "conditioned things" is the Buddha talking about? You should be able to enumerate all of them.

what are you talking about?. Human beings have atoms which never die.....So where does the theory of Anicca proved that matter comes to an end?. specifically answer my question.