How to practise sati ?

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How to practise sati ?

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The first in the order of the seven factors of enlightenment is sati .
How does one practice sati ? By being mindful of breathing and the body movement / posture or is there something more to it ?




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Satipathana or Anapanasati is the practice of Sati.
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Of those, right view is the forerunner. One makes an effort for the abandoning of wrong view & for entering into right view: This is one's right effort. One is mindful to abandon wrong view & to enter & remain in right view: This is one's right mindfulness. Thus these three qualities — right view, right effort & right mindfulness — run & circle around right view.

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SarathW wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:07 pm Satipathana or Anapanasati is the practice of Sati.
Yes, I noticed that , but how do you relate it with paticasamuppada ?
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James Tan wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:23 am
SarathW wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:07 pm Satipathana or Anapanasati is the practice of Sati.
Yes, I noticed that , but how do you relate it with paticasamuppada ?
Do you mean Noble Eightfold Path?
The way to eliminate ignorance is by right view.
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DooDoot wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:21 am
Of those, right view is the forerunner. One makes an effort for the abandoning of wrong view & for entering into right view: This is one's right effort. One is mindful to abandon wrong view & to enter & remain in right view: This is one's right mindfulness. Thus these three qualities — right view, right effort & right mindfulness — run & circle around right view.

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How does one being mindful abandon wrong view and remain in right view ?
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SarathW wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:33 am
James Tan wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:23 am
SarathW wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:07 pm Satipathana or Anapanasati is the practice of Sati.
Yes, I noticed that , but how do you relate it with paticasamuppada ?
Do you mean Noble Eightfold Path?
The way to eliminate ignorance is by right view.
What I refer to is while you practice Anapanasati , how do you abandon ignorance ?
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What I refer to is while you practice Anapanasati , how do you abandon ignorance?
This is generally happens in the third and the fourth tetrad.
The way I see it reflecting on Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta is how the ignorance abandoned.
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SarathW wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:51 am
What I refer to is while you practice Anapanasati , how do you abandon ignorance?
This is generally happens in the third and the fourth tetrad.
The way I see it reflecting on Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta is how the ignorance abandoned.
So, breathing in and out , long & short , course & fine etc you watch how the breath didn't last long , therefore impermanent and the breath give rise to suffering ?
What about anatta , how do you see breath as not self ?
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James Tan wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:12 pm The first in the order of the seven factors of enlightenment is sati .
How does one practice sati ? By being mindful of breathing and the body movement / posture or is there something more to it ?
There are four foundations of mindfulness or frames of reference - body, feeling, mind and dhamma. These are described in the Satipatthana Sutta, MN10.
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The basic practice is to pay attention to various aspects of experience, and to understand more clearly how phenomena arise and cease.
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James Tan wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:49 am How does one being mindful abandon wrong view and remain in right view ?
By practicing mindfulness The path factors are mutually supportive.
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James Tan wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:49 amHow does one being mindful abandon wrong view and remain in right view ?
By using mindfulness or by being mindful. By practising sati. :smile:
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SarathW wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:07 pm Satipathana or Anapanasati is the practice of Sati.
The Satipatthana Sutta describes the practice of sati.

The four tetrads of anapanasati look like a derivative version of satipatthana, where attention is split between the breath and lots of other things. Rather confusing, like trying to do two things at once.

The other problem with the four tetrads is the lack of consensus about how they should be practiced. Note the endless and inconclusive discussions on forums like this one.
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Dinsdale wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:42 am attention
Sati does not mean attention in Pali.
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DooDoot wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:58 am
Dinsdale wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:42 am attention
Sati does not mean attention in Pali.
:shrug:

It is described as paying attention in the Satipatthana Sutta, which is the core text on sati.
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