auto wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:16 pm
MettaDevPrac wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:20 am
sentinel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:14 am
Thanks John , but it is strange for a non returner appear has an attitude of embarrassing monastics !
A good challenge is a gift.
There cannot be embarrassment without grasping at Self. And dukkha is foundation for liberation. See MN9, DN12.23.
Grasping is craving for the identity. Identity itself is grasping aggregates. Embarrassment is identity. Embarrassment is self inflicted and it is you who is possessing the knowledge about the embarrassment.
Unless you know how the embarrassment comes about(without using body and speech) you are subject to have sensory reaction(paṭigha), sensory reaction is some sort of aggravation.
if you are eventually able to comprehend it mentally at a time it occurs before coming sensory then it will almost be paṭigha
, you are able to contain its expanding nature.
I understand embarrassment. Did I not say, "There cannot be embarrassment without grasping at Self."?
But for one who experiences it (perhaps, as you suggested, a monastic questioned by Citta the householder - but hopefully, perhaps not those monastics), it would be worth observing and examining it. And that is the dukkha to which I referred.
To know clearly (pajānāti), dukkha, its origin, its cessation, and the practice leading to its cessation, is one way the Ven Sariputta used to define "a noble disciple who has right view, whose view is correct, who has experiential confidence in the teaching, and has come to the true teaching in MN9.