if i get those feelings they get me heat. Also same heat can arise from joints and other ways. I can say dukkha is required for heat, relevant for practice, to arise.MettaDevPrac wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:25 am I understand embarrassment. Did I not say, "There cannot be embarrassment without grasping at Self."?
But for one who experiences it (perhaps, as you suggested, a monastic questioned by Citta the householder - but hopefully, perhaps not those monastics), it would be worth observing and examining it. And that is the dukkha to which I referred.
and also I can see how it is desire what makes this dukkha relevant(since not all pain can be ceased[at current development]), i feel that kind of pain is something i can deal with my mind if not today then eventually, at least faster than last time and discover some better way and supporting conditions to do so.
Emotions can get me to move my body like uncomfortable physical nature would eventually when it is persisting and don't go away. The decision to withstand is what gets me to sensation what seem fruitful and after that I don't have desire to move the body, rather I don't care since I got my fruit. This way I practice, looking for fruitful sensations, fruitful in a sense there have put in lots of effort and work. In a long run its pretty satisfying to get it with much less effort than I used to. There are several types of fruits, the best are for me if I discover something new what changes the practice outlook, kind of overhauls the system.