What experiences Nirvana?

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skandha wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:22 am I feel that death is actually pretty close to Parinibbana for those that have not experienced it.
there is no stress in Nirvana


hence it's not boring, nor difficult
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cappuccino wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:39 pm
skandha wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:22 am I feel that death is actually pretty close to Parinibbana for those that have not experienced it.
there is no stress in Nirvana


hence it's not boring, nor difficult
Imagine if all your limbs have been chopped off and you still live. It is certainly unpleasant but will you stress on account of it? If not then you can say you comprehend nibbana. For me this is not trivial. Not to say if all your senses fail to function anymore. What about if your mental faculties start to fail, dementia. It is not easy to stay equinimous on account of these. Likewise if your loved ones experience these, one who knows nirvana will be unperturbed.
Form is like a lump of foam, Feeling like a water bubble; Perception is like a mirage, Volitions like a plantain trunk, and consciousness like an illusion
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skandha wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:22 am I feel that death is actually pretty close to Parinibbana for those that have not experienced it.
Nirodha-samāpatti is the experience of final nibbāna whilst still alive. Note that it is the only meditative attainment without a corresponding realm after death ;)
"Besides the two categories of paramattha (the real) and paññatti (concept), a third category does not exist. One who is skilful in these two categories does not tremble in the face of other teachings."

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Ceisiwr wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:47 pm Nirodha-samāpatti is the experience of final nibbāna whilst still alive. Note that it is the only meditative attainment without a corresponding realm after death
the corresponding realm is Nirvana
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cappuccino wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:51 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:47 pm Nirodha-samāpatti is the experience of final nibbāna whilst still alive. Note that it is the only meditative attainment without a corresponding realm after death
the corresponding realm is Nirvana
After the death of an arahant there is no longer any corresponding, no reference points what so ever.
Form is like a lump of foam, Feeling like a water bubble; Perception is like a mirage, Volitions like a plantain trunk, and consciousness like an illusion
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skandha wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:26 pm
cappuccino wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:51 pm the corresponding realm is Nirvana
After the death of an arahant there is no longer any corresponding, no reference points what so ever.
there is no stress in Nirvana
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