The Buddhist canon is not a closed canon.

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zan wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:39 pm
I don't disagree with you, nor was I saying the teaching was incomplete before. I was saying these later teachings are invalid by the standards you've quoted. I was not saying the teachings that came before were incomplete. So, the teachings being already complete at the time of the Buddha's parinibbana, nothing is lost by rejecting teachings found in the naga realm hundreds of years later, especially when this rejection is based on the Buddha's specific instructions.
Oh I know, I was just adding more ammunition against the naga realm claim and all that. And it's impossible that he came back since it's parnibbana and all.

In general, I highly doubt that there can be a missing unique teaching "out there", as even the Ghandharan fragments are pretty aligned with the pali suttas. There's just so much repetition in the pali canon between all the nikayas, that it's pretty hard to find something new or original for one who has thoroughly studied the texts.
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coconut wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:44 pm
zan wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:39 pm
I don't disagree with you, nor was I saying the teaching was incomplete before. I was saying these later teachings are invalid by the standards you've quoted. I was not saying the teachings that came before were incomplete. So, the teachings being already complete at the time of the Buddha's parinibbana, nothing is lost by rejecting teachings found in the naga realm hundreds of years later, especially when this rejection is based on the Buddha's specific instructions.
Oh I know, I was just adding more ammunition against the naga realm claim and all that. And it's impossible that he came back since it's parnibbana and all.

In general, I highly doubt that there can be a missing unique teaching "out there", as even the Ghandharan fragments are pretty aligned with the pali suttas. There's just so much repetition in the pali canon between all the nikayas, that it's pretty hard to find something new or original for one who has thoroughly studied the texts.
My mistake! Apologies I keep misunderstanding you lol! Thank you very much for the posts! Very helpful and informative.
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zan wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:03 pm
SDC wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:51 pm
zan wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:37 pm Much appreciated. I'd still like to find a source where it is declared closed. Oh well.
Understood, but remember, that closes the case only in the realm of academia, which is only apart of the story. "You" are the other part.


Perhaps it is my fault for not clarifying, however I was asking strictly in the academic sense I do not see any value in considering whether or not a canon is closed on some personal opinion subjective level. Or even on a spiritual one. This is in no way to say that I find no value in these ideas in general. However what I'm saying is merely that they do not hold any value for me personally. I'm certainly not trying to reduce your statements or opinions to being valueless. And I appreciate them thank you for sharing.
No need to apologize for not clarifying, it is quite clear that you meant it in a strict academic sense, which is why I felt compelled to try and blur the lines.
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coconut wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:44 pm In general, I highly doubt that there can be a missing unique teaching "out there",
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`I have proclaimed the Dhamma without any idea of a hidden and open teaching. I do not have the closed fist of the teacher who holds anything back' (D.II,100).
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