What sort of practice Pacceka Buddha follows ?

[asahi]

4 noble truth ? 8fp ? Pacceka Buddha never heard of any Buddha teachings ever ? Did Pacceka Buddha existed in Buddha times but unnoticed to the world ?

[confusedlayman]

4 noble truth ? 8fp ? Pacceka Buddha never heard of any Buddha teachings ever ? Did Pacceka Buddha existed in Buddha times but unnoticed to the world ?

they can exist only when teaching buddha dont exist

they can exist when buddhist teachings or sasana still there but they won't find it for starting spiritual path (I maybe wrong on this)

they themselves do breath meditation and find 4 noble truth on own using jhana as base

it seems pacceka buddha will have followers who gives flowers and meal but no followers who can understand four noble truth from them (I maybe wrong here)

[dharmacorps]

4 noble truth ? 8fp ? Pacceka Buddha never heard of any Buddha teachings ever ? Did Pacceka Buddha existed in Buddha times but unnoticed to the world ?

Pacceka Buddhas are "silent Buddhas", in other words, they don't teach. So nobody would have any idea what they taught by definition.

During the Buddha's life, there was only one Buddha-- Gautama Buddha Shakyamuni. Only one Buddha can arise at a time.

[asahi]

they can exist only when teaching buddha dont exist

they can exist when buddhist teachings or sasana still there but they won't find it for starting spiritual path (I maybe wrong on this)

they themselves do breath meditation and find 4 noble truth on own using jhana as base

it seems pacceka buddha will have followers who gives flowers and meal but no followers who can understand four noble truth from them (I maybe wrong here)

I think Jhana maybe but not sure if they know 4NT .

[SteRo]

All about PB from a theravada perspective: https://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh305_Kloppe ... entary.pdf

[asahi]

All about PB from a theravada perspective: https://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh305_Kloppe ... entary.pdf

Thanks stero .


Ps .
It seems the Pacceka Buddha are not really alone , sometimes they resides in a group . And they are not really silence , sometimes they gave discourses in utterances and explanations .

The Majjhima Nikāya (M III 69–71) enumerates 119 names
of a group of five hundred Paccekabuddhas who are said to
reside on Mount Isigili.

When a Paccekabuddha arrives there just after attaining
enlightenment, he seats himself on the prepared seat. Then,
if at the time other Paccekabuddhas are present, they also
assemble at that same moment and sit down on the
prepared seats. Having seated themselves, they enter an
attainment and come out of it again. Then, in order to satisfy all, the eldest of the community inquires after the newly
arrived Paccekabuddha’s object of meditation: ’How was
(this enlightenment of yours) attained?’ And then he speaks
his own verse, the solemn utterance (udāna) and its
explanation. Later the Lord recited that same verse after
being questioned by the reverend Ānanda, and Ānanda
recited it during the (first) Council as well. Each verse that
was spoken in the place of those who are enlightened to
self-enlightenment under the Mañjūsaka-tree, was recited
three or four times during the Council by Ānanda at the
time he was questioned” (Sn-a 66–67).

[confusedlayman]

All about PB from a theravada perspective: https://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh305_Kloppe ... entary.pdf

thanks for the link.. never found that link before I think u looked in to it deeply in past ... can PB occur in todays world?

[SteRo]

All about PB from a theravada perspective: https://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh305_Kloppe ... entary.pdf

thanks for the link.. never found that link before I think u looked in to it deeply in past ... can PB occur in todays world?

Quoted from this booklet:

Paccekabuddhas are said to exist only in periods when there
are no Buddhas. “A person realises Paccekabodhi only
when reborn at a time when there is no Buddha” (S-a III 189
and 208). Other expressions to denote this period are: ”the
time which lies between (the appearances of) a Lord” (A-a I
194); ”a period in which no Teacher has appeared” (Pv-a III
144); and “the period between the Buddha (-periods)” (A-a
II 192). One of the main characteristics of the
Paccekabuddha’s career is that he attains insight during
such a period. But this does not mean that his whole
aspiration to enlightenment is restricted to this time; it is
invariably a matter of many existences of hard work, during
which he practises the perfections and accumulates the
conditions for enlightenment.

"a period when there is no Buddha" might apply to present time, right?

Also interesting:

Sometimes a person does not attain arahatship during a
Buddha-period and so is driven onwards to strive for
enlightenment by himself: “When one has attained the
condition (for arahatship) (upanissaya), one attains
arahatship (if possible) during the first part of one’s life,
then during the middle part, and if one does not attain it
during the middle part, then at the moment of death; if one
does not attain it at the moment of death, then one attains if
after having become a demi-god (devaputta); but if one does
not attain it after having become a demi-god, then one
enters final Nibbāna having become a Paccekabuddha. And
if one has not become a Paccekabuddha and does not enter
final Nibbāna, then one becomes a person of quick intuition
like the thera Bāhiya, or a person of great wisdom like the
thera Sāriputta” (Sn-a 58). Even the wicked Devadatta
could, as a result of taking refuge in the Triple Gem at the
moment of death, be assured of future Paccekabodhi under
the name of Aṭṭhissara after being released from hell.

[GoWiththeflowavatar]

All about PB from a theravada perspective: https://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh305_Kloppe ... entary.pdf

thanks for the link.. never found that link before I think u looked in to it deeply in past ... can PB occur in todays world?

Only through realization of dependent origination a Paccekabuddha or multiple Paccekabuddhas can arise. Usually, a sign is needed which leads to stream-entry and needed guidance from a teacher for most of us but for the Paccekabuddha they perceive a sign and practice without guidance from a teacher. These signs for Paccekabuddha are typically based on delusion, greed, and aversion which when mediated deeply leads to insight on why we should not attach ourselves to the cause of suffering and be reborn again. The Paccekabuddha knows attachment is dangerous, and leads a lone life unless he finds companionship with wise people (similar to him).

The practice he follows is the same, but since he fears attachment he is unable to teach others since he must have the 4 divine abidings perfected (loving-kindness, compassion, gladness, and equanimity) and the ten perfections to teach them. This is why the Sammasambuddha practices longer and becomes reborn again and again, to master these qualities and gain deeper insight to teach all sentient beings.

EDIT - Used the wrong term for the Enlightened One.

[confusedlayman]

All about PB from a theravada perspective: https://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh305_Kloppe ... entary.pdf

thanks for the link.. never found that link before I think u looked in to it deeply in past ... can PB occur in todays world?

Only through realization of dependent origination a Paccekabuddha or multiple Paccekabuddhas can arise. Usually, a sign is needed which leads to stream-entry and needed guidance from a teacher for most of us but for the Paccekabuddha they perceive a sign and practice without guidance from a teacher. These signs for Paccekabuddha are typically based on delusion, greed, and aversion which when mediated deeply leads to insight on why we should not attach ourselves to the cause of suffering and be reborn again. The Paccekabuddha knows attachment is dangerous, and leads a lone life unless he finds companionship with wise people (similar to him).

The practice he follows is the same, but since he fears attachment he is unable to teach others since he must have the 4 divine abidings perfected (loving-kindness, compassion, gladness, and equanimity) and the ten perfections to teach them. This is why the Sammasambuddha practices longer and becomes reborn again and again, to master these qualities and gain deeper insight to teach all sentient beings.

EDIT - Used the wrong term for the Enlightened One.

I think all arhants have perfect brahmaviharas

[sakyan]

4 noble truth ? 8fp ? Pacceka Buddha never heard of any Buddha teachings ever ? Did Pacceka Buddha existed in Buddha times but unnoticed to the world ?

It is evident from Buddhist scriptures that some Pacceka Buddhas used withered tree as a example to attain their Bodhi, A certain Ven One used a single bangle in hand of a girl as an object of meditation, Just as many bangles make sound and a single one does not, So too many associations causes suffering, peaceful is liberation of all afflictions.

Pacceka Buddhas usually attain instant Bodhi as soon as they in their daily life see any object that can spark insight.