Your understanding seems different to my understanding, but there is no point arguing or trying to be correct, isn't it?
Maybe I'm wrong.
Your understanding seems different to my understanding, but there is no point arguing or trying to be correct, isn't it?
I met a Buddhist practitioner who said "You don't have to attain Nibbana if you can control yourself at The Eight Worldly Concerns". (gain and fear of loss, pleasure and fear of pain, good reputation and fear of bad reputation, praise and fear of blame).mjaviem wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:07 am A peaceful yogi is going to get old and sick and/or die. As he hasn't reached enlightenment he's not fully at ease, he still cares for his life and any afflictions that can come. Results of kamma can still manifest. He's not truly free in the present moment. The same for the rich. You don't need to have an expanded view to a future life to understand you are not free. So, should you seek Nibbana? It's up to you. I don't see an absolute reason. This is how I see it for now
Ok, he has wrong view and he has no reason to seek Nibbana. Are you telling me that there is only one reason, the reason, to seek Nibbana and that it comes with right view? Well, I don't know, I thought the reason was something conventional not to be found in nature like the convention of a self.Rahula wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:54 pmI met a Buddhist practitioner who said "You don't have to attain Nibbana if you can control yourself at The Eight Worldly Concerns". (gain and fear of loss, pleasure and fear of pain, good reputation and fear of bad reputation, praise and fear of blame).mjaviem wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:07 am A peaceful yogi is going to get old and sick and/or die. As he hasn't reached enlightenment he's not fully at ease, he still cares for his life and any afflictions that can come. Results of kamma can still manifest. He's not truly free in the present moment. The same for the rich. You don't need to have an expanded view to a future life to understand you are not free. So, should you seek Nibbana? It's up to you. I don't see an absolute reason. This is how I see it for now
It means if he thinks he can control himself, he will not seek Nibbana.
He is also a non-believer of Dukka as Samsara dukka. That is the danger of it (as far as I can understand).