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Why do people from Sri Lanka add an extra 'h' ?Pulsar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:36 pm Dearest frank k. I read part of what you posted on Reddit...
From Sujatho what you posted...Sujatho is rightly speaking of theAnd in just the same way, the body is not a physical body, but a metaphor for the wholeness and directness of experience. As if this were not obvious enough from the context, notice that the things to be realized with the body are the eight liberations, which include the four formless attainments. These are by definition beyond any kind of physical reality. Elsewhere, the Buddha says that even Nibbana is to be realized with the body.
The body is not the body, the eye is not the eye, and thought is not thought. These are all words, inadequate, struggling, messy words, creeping up from the evolutionary slime, groping and grasping towards the light. As long as we keep them weighed down by the mundane, we can never speak of higher things. And since these higher things are things of the mind, if we cannot speak of them, we cannot imagine them. And if we cannot imagine them, we cannot realize them. And that is rather a sad state of affairs.He even says if if we cannot imagine them, we cannot realize them. And that is rather a sad state of affairs.
- the wholeness and directness of experience
Many engage in discussions of jhana, without having a clue, of its soteriological significance. I feel folks think of jhana an an experience independent of the rest of the rest of the 8-fold path. It comes in a package. Is it not?
The 8-fold path does not require anything more than the 4 buddhist jhanas as Samma Samadhi, even though some suttas refer to meditations other than the 4 buddhist jhanas. I try not to dwell on what is unnecessary. I've noticed that you are a proponent of Arupa Samapathis.
Can you explain how those help the reversal of Dependent origination of suffering?
Should not this be our main concern?
Nama rupa helps propagate the worldly consciousness. If we can stop the process of creating rupa, (mental proliferation) the problem is solved.
4th Jhana can accomplish this. Why progress on to Arupa Samapatthis?
It is far better to rightly understand Paticca samuppada and educate folks on that, than to criticize Ven. Sujatho. He is merely discussing the weakness of language in communicating spiritual concepts.
Here is what someone else wrote on DW on the poverty of language in communicating spiritual concepts.
One time there was a question on why there is no sutta that explains awakening?Vinasp wrote. This is not Ven. Sujatho's fault.It is because they cannot explain what awakening actually is, to the puthujjana
It is not fair to misrepresent Ven. Sujatho.
With love