If you think that is sufficient it is fine.Spiny Norman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:17 amThe suttas explain that sense-consciousness arises in dependence upon sense-base and sense-object. Why is that not sufficient?SarathW wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:24 amOk.
What I am trying to prove here is that Sutta alone we cant explain OP question.
We need to know the Abhidhamma as it gives a logical answer, whether it is right or wrong.
As per the attached table, the Great Elements and the Gocara Rupa are called the Rupa as per Sutta
internal Pasada Rupa is called the eye.
So when the Rupa contact Pasada Rupa eye-consciousness (as per Sutta) or Citta (as per Abhidhamma arises)
So as per Abhidhamma both Rupa and Pasada Rupa come under 28 Rupa.
https://puredhamma.net/tables-and-summa ... rial-form/
IMO the purpose of this formulation is to relegate consciousness to just another dependently arising phenomena. As compared to some other schools of thought where consciousness has a special status.
But to think that consciousness is nothing more than a physical process is quite a realisation and I am sure many in this forum will not agree with that.