Pulsar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:47 am
Why does the abhidhamma have a different scheme of conditional relations? other than the scheme in DO?[/list]BB footnote to Dhatusamyutta writesHow can you justify this? Does it not go against Buddha's teaching?"Since according to the abhidhamma scheme of conditional relations, the mind element and its concomitant contact are mutually dependent"
Nothing in DO is mutually dependent, except nama-rupa-> consciousness.
Conditional Relations, DO, and Abhidhamma
Conditional Relations, DO, and Abhidhamma
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Re: Conditional Relations, DO, and Abhidhamma
As with most teachings it’s been stripped down for memorisation. Altogether there are 24 conditions.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
Re: Conditional Relations, DO, and Abhidhamma
DO appears to be about the arising of suffering (rather than about the arising of all things).Pulsar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:47 am
Why does the abhidhamma have a different scheme of conditional relations? other than the scheme in DO?
BB footnote to Dhatusamyutta writesHow can you justify this? Does it not go against Buddha's teaching?"Since according to the abhidhamma scheme of conditional relations, the mind element and its concomitant contact are mutually dependent"
Nothing in DO is mutually dependent, except nama-rupa-> consciousness.
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Re: Conditional Relations, DO, and Abhidhamma
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Thank you DooDoot for bringing the truth home.
Now I know why abhidhamma is all messed up, a hybrid of Mahayana and Pali suttas, where we end up in
What is may name this time?
Sincerely
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Cool, so I conclude from your answer that abhidhamma scheme of dependent origination is about the arising of all things,DO appears to be about the arising of suffering (rather than about the arising of all things).
- which Buddha never bothered about.
Thank you DooDoot for bringing the truth home.
Now I know why abhidhamma is all messed up, a hybrid of Mahayana and Pali suttas, where we end up in
- No man's land.
What is may name this time?
Sincerely
Chirping bird