What Does “Paccayā” Mean in Paṭicca Samuppāda?

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DooDoot wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:38 am
SarathW wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:17 am Thnaks.

What represents the Pacccya in Dependent Origination?
ie How can we apply these conditions to DO?
The above question is difficult for me to understand :weep: . Could u kindly clarify the question? Thanks :thanks:
If I take these 24 conditioning, which condition (s) related to DO?
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SarathW wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:14 am There is a Sutta to say that Buddha said that it is not possible to see a beginning of the world as it was that long
"The world" has ignorance as its 1st cause. Therefore, whenever the world started, ignorance was its 1st cause.

While SN 12.44 does not include ignorance, because SN 12.44 is about dependent origination, it begins with ignorance:
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12.44. The World

“And what, bhikkhus, is the origin of the world? In dependence on the eye and forms, eye-consciousness arises. The meeting of the three is contact. With contact as condition, feeling comes to be; with feeling as condition, craving; with craving as condition, clinging; with clinging as condition, existence; with existence as condition, birth; with birth as condition, aging-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, displeasure, and despair come to be. This, bhikkhus, is the origin of the world.

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No.
There is another Sutta that says that the beginning of the world can not be seen as it was too long.
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The book "Investigating the Dhamma: A Collection of Papers" by Bhikkhu Bodhi did addresses these question.

Reading it will help better understanding. Available online for free.
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Dhammavamsa wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:52 pm The book "Investigating the Dhamma: A Collection of Papers" by Bhikkhu Bodhi did addresses these question.

Reading it will help better understanding. Available online for free.
The word "pacacaya" appears not directly discussed above.
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