What if all the beings in this world die at once?

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What if all the beings in this world die at once?

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What if all the beings in this world die at once?
The question is what is left if the whole world is destroyed?
Do we still have the Rupa (earth, air, etc) left?
Do some sort of consciousness left?
What if all the beings attain Nibbana? Will there be any more consciousness left?
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SarathW wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:44 am What if all the beings in this world die at once?
The question is what is left if the whole world is destroyed?
Do we still have the Rupa (earth, air, etc) left?
Do some sort of consciousness left?
What if all the beings attain Nibbana? Will there be any more consciousness left?
According to the suttas , if the world system get destroy , somehow the beings here will be reborn in another world system depending on their ripening karma . But not possible for all beings attain nibbana since some of them are moslem , christian , taiost , hindu , atheist , confucianism and others .
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asahi wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:52 am
SarathW wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:44 am What if all the beings in this world die at once?
The question is what is left if the whole world is destroyed?
Do we still have the Rupa (earth, air, etc) left?
Do some sort of consciousness left?
What if all the beings attain Nibbana? Will there be any more consciousness left?
According to the suttas , if the world system get destroy , somehow the beings here will be reborn in another world system depending on their ripening karma . But not possible for all beings attain nibbana since some of them are moslem , christian , taiost , hindu , atheist , confucianism and others .
Agree.
This is a what-if question.
What I am trying to establish is whether there is consciousness and a matter that cannot be destroyed.
In other words the Nama and Rupa two different things.
Can Rupa exist in the independence of Nama and that Nama can exist independent of Rupa?
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Matter cant be destroyed just changing into another mode . Consciousness per the Buddha teachings are not something permanent . Nibbana appear to be unchanging irrespect of whether all phenomena get annihilated or not .
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asahi wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:32 am Matter cant be destroyed just changing into another mode . Consciousness per the Buddha teachings are not something permanent . Nibbana appear to be unchanging irrespect of whether all phenomena get annihilated or not .
How consciousness arise?
Is that a product of matter just like fire?
The question is why in Buddhism matter and consciousness treat separately.
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SarathW wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:34 am How consciousness arise?
Is that a product of matter just like fire?
The question is why in Buddhism matter and consciousness treat separately.
If we stick to Buddha's teachings , vinnana are but only product of sense bases and its objects . Nama is by no means refers to vinnana . You cant find its definition in the suttas (nikaya) except only one sutta in agama which could be doubtful . The Buddha only taught of suffering and its cessation . He designed a way so to free us from bondage . In order to differentiate one can come to agreement that vinnana is part of materiality but not tangible just like F P I .
How the features of vinnana and its effects came into beings are not known . Buddha never gave discourses on it
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When asked if all beings in the full span of time,would attain Nibbana, he said "no".

So that question doesn't apply.

If all beings were killed (at once, or different times), then they would still fare according to their kamma and take rebirth at some other time or place. The law of kamma and rebirth doesn't void because the earth and its inhabitants die.
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What if the moon is made of cheese and all the other beings in the universe go to live there?


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SarathW wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:44 am What if all the beings attain Nibbana? Will there be any more consciousness left?
beings are preoccupied with trivia


Nirvana is not their interest


hence not their fate
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Aloka wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:50 pm .

What if the moon is made of cheese and all the other beings in the universe go to live there?


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That would make walking quite gooey during summer time due to the melting of cheese.
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Bundokji wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:23 pm
Aloka wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:50 pm .

What if the moon is made of cheese and all the other beings in the universe go to live there?
That would make walking quite gooey during summer time due to the melting of cheese.
Wouldn't they eventually eat themselves out of a home? :D I suppose some could argue that we are doing that right now, here on earth, sounds like a potential DWE topic.

Going by the geological, biological science, a large part of earth's history didn't include animals or humans, as life was evolving from tiny organisms in the seas. This is still compatible with Buddhism, since it accepts that there are long periods where the Dhamma is not known, when there is no samma-sam-buddha, no Dhamma dispensation, only dark ages.
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