Their unsatisfactoriness is related to their impermanence, which isn't subjective.AlexBrains92 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:54 pm
First of all, I didn't affirm that conditioned dhammas can sometimes bring satisfaction. Also satisfaction is something related to a subject who would experience it.
You sure about that?Second, the Buddha never described his truths as absolute or ultimate, too. Think about it: they are truths designed for the human being, they are about the human existential condition. They have no value for a stone.
“Mendicants, these four things are real, not unreal, not otherwise. What four? ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’ … These four things are real, not unreal, not otherwise.
That’s why you should practice meditation …”
- SN 56.20
"Monks, whether or not there is the arising of Tathagatas, this property stands—this steadfastness of the Dhamma, this orderliness of the Dhamma: All processes are inconstant.
“The Tathagata directly awakens to that, breaks through to that. Directly awakening & breaking through to that, he declares it, teaches it, describes it, sets it forth. He reveals it, explains it, & makes it plain: All processes are inconstant.
“Whether or not there is the arising of Tathagatas, this property stands—this steadfastness of the Dhamma, this orderliness of the Dhamma: All processes are stressful.
“The Tathagata directly awakens to that, breaks through to that. Directly awakening & breaking through to that, he declares it, teaches it, describes it, sets it forth. He reveals it, explains it, & makes it plain: All processes are stressful.
“Whether or not there is the arising of Tathagatas, this property stands—this steadfastness of the Dhamma, this orderliness of the Dhamma: All phenomena are not-self.
“The Tathagata directly awakens to that, breaks through to that. Directly awakening & breaking through to that, he declares it, teaches it, describes it, sets it forth. He reveals it, explains it, & makes it plain: All phenomena are not-self.”
- AN 3.136
The truths aren't "designed for human beings". They are discovered. They are real and true regardless of if people know them or not, which is why so many beings are stuck in saṃsāra. They also do not only apply to humans, but also to animals and devas etc too.
"The truth is one,
there is no second"