You have slightly switched the verbose from self to self view - self attachment eradication is end of path and self view eradication is start of the path.Goofaholix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:51 pmI would say that this is Bhava Tanha, this craving for ones own preservation runs on instinct. I don't think self view is required for this instinct to function, though it will fuel self view.Jack19990101 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:48 am I heard, too, about this statement 'self is conceptual.'
I am not sure it is true tho. Maybe to a degree it makes sense but -
thinking of animals or babies, they don't have conceptual mind, but they are full of self-preservations.
Bhava Tanha is the gap between a formless mind and a mind of form. It is a being attachment which equals self attachment.
i am not fully sure about what instinct entitles of, but in my understanding, babies and animals are in unstoppable urge looking for food upon hunger. They only stop when hunger is gone or being tired out.