Recitation of Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga

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Recitation of Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga

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:anjali:

Anyone here recites Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga?

I am reading both these vaggas and want to learn how to recite them in Pali.
IMG_20211204_105731.jpg
Do we need to recite the Pali words in the bracket too?
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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Ontheway wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:02 am :anjali:

Anyone here recites Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga?

I am reading both these vaggas and want to learn how to recite them in Pali. IMG_20211204_105731.jpg
Do we need to recite the Pali words in the bracket too?
I don't think would make sense, as they are carefully crafted verses - the bracketed text is, I think, commentary clarifying who is speaking.

I found the chanting of some of the other SNP suttas by Bhikkhus Sujato and Akaliko during lockdown last year very helpful in learning to follow the metres:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +dhammanet
Chanting book here: https://lokanta.github.io/

Ānandajoti Bhikkhu has a nice discussion of metres:
https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/ ... /index.htm
And the basics of scanning are here:
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... l_toc_id_3


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Re: Recitation of Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga

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mikenz66 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:59 am
Ontheway wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:02 am :anjali:

Anyone here recites Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga?

I am reading both these vaggas and want to learn how to recite them in Pali. IMG_20211204_105731.jpg
Do we need to recite the Pali words in the bracket too?
I don't think would make sense, as they are carefully crafted verses - the bracketed text is, I think, commentary clarifying who is speaking.

I found the chanting of some of the other SNP suttas by Bhikkhus Sujato and Akaliko during lockdown last year very helpful in learning to follow the metres:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +dhammanet
Chanting book here: https://lokanta.github.io/

Ānandajoti Bhikkhu has a nice discussion of metres:
https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/ ... /index.htm
And the basics of scanning are here:
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... l_toc_id_3


Mike
Thank you very much :anjali:
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Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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Ven. Jiv made an excellent pali recording of parayana vagga this year
https://archive.org/details/audtip-luci ... rdrjiv.mp3

new recordings announced on this blog that you can subscribe to
https://audtip.blogspot.com/2021/09/new ... ipata.html

I asked Ven. Anandajoti about reciting the parenthethical comments. He said it was ok to include as part of recitation.
I don't chant the parenthetical parts myself in my practice.
I have 3 of the 16 suttas in parayana memorized in their entirety, for the remaining suttas in that vagga,
I intend do just memorize one stanza (the most important or interesting part) from each.

Ontheway wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:02 am :anjali:

Anyone here recites Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga?

I am reading both these vaggas and want to learn how to recite them in Pali. IMG_20211204_105731.jpg
Do we need to recite the Pali words in the bracket too?
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frank k wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:25 pm Ven. Jiv made an excellent pali recording of parayana vagga this year
https://archive.org/details/audtip-luci ... rdrjiv.mp3

new recordings announced on this blog that you can subscribe to
https://audtip.blogspot.com/2021/09/new ... ipata.html

I asked Ven. Anandajoti about reciting the parenthethical comments. He said it was ok to include as part of recitation.
I don't chant the parenthetical parts myself in my practice.
I have 3 of the 16 suttas in parayana memorized in their entirety, for the remaining suttas in that vagga,
I intend do just memorize one stanza (the most important or interesting part) from each.

Ontheway wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:02 am :anjali:

Anyone here recites Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga?

I am reading both these vaggas and want to learn how to recite them in Pali. IMG_20211204_105731.jpg
Do we need to recite the Pali words in the bracket too?
Sadhu for your good effort. :thumbsup:
I think I will not recite the parenthetical parts too. I will focus on learning Parayanavagga first.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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Re: Recitation of Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga

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Ontheway wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:33 pm
frank k wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:25 pm Ven. Jiv made an excellent pali recording of parayana vagga this year
https://archive.org/details/audtip-luci ... rdrjiv.mp3

new recordings announced on this blog that you can subscribe to
https://audtip.blogspot.com/2021/09/new ... ipata.html

I asked Ven. Anandajoti about reciting the parenthethical comments. He said it was ok to include as part of recitation.
I don't chant the parenthetical parts myself in my practice.
I have 3 of the 16 suttas in parayana memorized in their entirety, for the remaining suttas in that vagga,
I intend do just memorize one stanza (the most important or interesting part) from each.

Ontheway wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:02 am :anjali:

Anyone here recites Aṭṭhakavagga and Pārāyanavagga?

I am reading both these vaggas and want to learn how to recite them in Pali. IMG_20211204_105731.jpg
Do we need to recite the Pali words in the bracket too?
Sadhu for your good effort. :thumbsup:
I think I will not recite the parenthetical parts too. I will focus on learning Parayanavagga first.
As far as memorization goes, I have found this to be quite helpful:

Although the advice is geared towards memorizing chanting it will hopefully help.

Good luck in your efforts
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