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Lot's of metta to all beings affected and also the Chinese govt, lets wish better sense would prevail, hope Chinese people themselves raise their voice against their govt against such acts!
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I don't know about that news... But there are plenty of Orthodox Theravada monasteries in China too (the Theravada lineage was preserved by ancient "Dai" people till now), one of the biggest is known as "Zhong fo si" (later I know the literal meaning is "The Main Buddha Monastery"), untouched by China CCP gov, or should I say, even protected by China CCP gov.






I think although the main ruling party is CCP, yet the Chinese people there are quite religious.

Orthodox Theravada lineage as preserved by "Dai" people till now in Xiahuangbanna, China (no sub, I watched it though)
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https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-c ... r%20lives.

This also talks about CHINA CCP pushing Confusian values through Religion

"China's religious diplomacy involves pervasive control of the CCP over every aspect of religion, from regular worship to conducting charity services, appointment and training of religious leaders to set several conditions on their activities." Is this True?
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China has a checkered history with religions. As a communist country, they pay more-than-lip-service to State Atheism. State Atheism is tricky though, because it does not reflect what is truly in the hearts of the people. Even the USSR could not succeed in stamping out Russian Orthodoxy and their Muslim and Buddhist populations, to say nothing of peoples in Siberia and other more-far-flung territories practicing traditional shamanism. Every now and then, the Chinese government goes on a spree of demolishing temples, mosques, and churches. Recently, a significant portion of Larung Gar, a Tibetan monastery, was destroyed by the Chinese state as part of their assimilation and secularization programs. Ideally, the Chinese government wants "religion" regulated to charmingly quaint kooky ideas that your grandmother has and keeps to herself. The sort of "Confucianism" that the Chinese government stands by is far-divorced from ancient Confucianism -- even divorced from the Neo-Confucianism of medieval China.

In China, the state writes the sermon in Christian churches. All churches and sects are state-run in China. So, if you are a Protestant, your sermon will be written by a party official. If you are a Catholic, your sermon will be written by a different state official. Certainly, they'll make an effort to work what they've been told to tell you into the general framework of the religion, but make no mistake, at the end of the day, it is a church that is also a limb of the Party. Buddhist temples and monasteries are no different in China. Sometimes, if the monastery is particularly famous, they'll fill it with fake monks who are cultural specialists because that's better for tourists. You can get tourism money in and have a bhante tell you how great communism is for China. There is no talk about the great loss of Buddhist diversity when countless minor sects were destroyed by the cultural revolution, when monks were made to wear dunce caps and confess to humiliating jacked-up charges under threat of extreme violence.

So, in China, the Dharma Talk is an government document issued to the people by a minister in the form of a Buddhist monk. Chinese Islam and Christianity are no different. This bit of context has to be understood, IMO, to understand the incoherent tension inherent in the stance of the Chinese government towards the religions of the Chinese people.

Why is China, the Chinese government, doing it? IMO, because they fear when something other than the beloved Party rules over the hearts of their subjects. Communist State Atheism is a lot like monotheism. "There can only be one."
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Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
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I really hope that One day China & India be great friends!

There is & was so much history and culture between these two great Nations!

Why NOT "love" prevail in this world? Why not give "Freedom" for people to practice religion in their own way as long as they are NOT harming other beings.

Humanity could have achieved so much more by now 2022 if NOT for all the wars & hatred among religions!

Imagine if all the money in the world was used to help Humanity to take care if basic needs of food, shelter & medicine were met to all Humanity.

Imagine if THE TRILLIONS of DOLLARS spent on war machines were spent on education & science, This place could have been a much better world.

We still CAN...so many opportunities & challenges now in form of Climate Change, Healthcare etc

Lot's of luv for all :heart:

May all beings be happy & attain Nibbana!
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I really hope that One day China & India be great friends!
Well, of course it is possible. Let us see if China will follow USSR's footstep or not.

USSR once a hardcore communist country, yet transformed into "Russia" without communism ....

Wait, or maybe we've been misinformed? :spy: :jumping:
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