Can a Samanera, while kneeling, answers a Bhikkhuni's question?
When I was a Samanera around 16 years old if I'm not mistaken, I attended a very old Bhikkhuni Kusuma's talk session with all other Samaneras. When this Bhikkhuni gives a test question, while other Samaneras did not answer, I was dared enough to answer. Yet, she wanted me to go in front and answer the questions. Without any knowledge on Vinaya Pitaka (well, I was more like Ekapitaka Buddhist that time), I went to the stage and kneeling while answers the question. No one stopping me that time.
Many years later, the old Bhikkhuni passed away. Now I begin to have this doubt and fear. Did I transgressed any Vinaya rules in term of Samanera ordination?
...and what worse is the Orthodox Theravada now no longer recognise the status of new age "Bhikkhuni". How is that even legitimate and even teaching a class of Samanera in public that time?
If that is a transgression, how can I make amend of it so that it wouldn't be a blockage to my further practice?
Anyone well-versed in Vinaya Pitaka here?
Kneeling while answering question
Kneeling while answering question
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
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sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
Re: Kneeling while answering question
There is nothing in the Vinaya around this. The closest would be preaching Dhamma while seated to someone who was standing. But it doesn't sound like this was the case. Please don't have any doubts or worries. Since this was a teaching situation and you were all Samaneras, I imagine she would have told you to stand differently if it wasn't appropriate.
The whole situation was possible (re bhikkhunis) because Ayya Kusuma was very brave and dedicated.
I'm sure she was happy you answered the question.
The whole situation was possible (re bhikkhunis) because Ayya Kusuma was very brave and dedicated.
I'm sure she was happy you answered the question.
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Re: Kneeling while answering question
Rites and rituals to be let go of.
Re: Kneeling while answering question
Are you a monk?Ontheway wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:09 pm Can a Samanera, while kneeling, answers a Bhikkhuni's question?
When I was a Samanera around 16 years old if I'm not mistaken, I attended a very old Bhikkhuni Kusuma's talk session with all other Samaneras. When this Bhikkhuni gives a test question, while other Samaneras did not answer, I was dared enough to answer. Yet, she wanted me to go in front and answer the questions. Without any knowledge on Vinaya Pitaka (well, I was more like Ekapitaka Buddhist that time), I went to the stage and kneeling while answers the question. No one stopping me that time.
Many years later, the old Bhikkhuni passed away. Now I begin to have this doubt and fear. Did I transgressed any Vinaya rules in term of Samanera ordination?
...and what worse is the Orthodox Theravada now no longer recognise the status of new age "Bhikkhuni". How is that even legitimate and even teaching a class of Samanera in public that time?
If that is a transgression, how can I make amend of it so that it wouldn't be a blockage to my further practice?
Anyone well-versed in Vinaya Pitaka here?
By the way this question would have posted under the section "ordination and monastic life"
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Kneeling while answering question
Buddha taught freedom, not submission.
This topic is about acting submissive or obedient.
If you are inclined to act this way go for it, but it’s mere rites and rituals most likely added after buddhas passing.
If there is any vinyana regarding this.
Re: Kneeling while answering question
No. I'm not. That was my Samanera ordination programme long time ago, when I'm still a teenager.SarathW wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:59 pmAre you a monk?Ontheway wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:09 pm Can a Samanera, while kneeling, answers a Bhikkhuni's question?
When I was a Samanera around 16 years old if I'm not mistaken, I attended a very old Bhikkhuni Kusuma's talk session with all other Samaneras. When this Bhikkhuni gives a test question, while other Samaneras did not answer, I was dared enough to answer. Yet, she wanted me to go in front and answer the questions. Without any knowledge on Vinaya Pitaka (well, I was more like Ekapitaka Buddhist that time), I went to the stage and kneeling while answers the question. No one stopping me that time.
Many years later, the old Bhikkhuni passed away. Now I begin to have this doubt and fear. Did I transgressed any Vinaya rules in term of Samanera ordination?
...and what worse is the Orthodox Theravada now no longer recognise the status of new age "Bhikkhuni". How is that even legitimate and even teaching a class of Samanera in public that time?
If that is a transgression, how can I make amend of it so that it wouldn't be a blockage to my further practice?
Anyone well-versed in Vinaya Pitaka here?
By the way this question would have posted under the section "ordination and monastic life"
That's why I put it here as I'm now a layfollower Upasaka.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
Re: Kneeling while answering question
Stop mispresenting Buddha's Dhamma.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
Re: Kneeling while answering question
Ontheway wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:50 amStop mispresenting Buddha's Dhamma.