Doubts about existence of ghosts & super natural beings

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Re: Doubts about existence of ghosts & super natural beings

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I learn something from watching Sam Berns Philosophy for happy life

" Firstly, be ok with what you ultimately can’t do because there is so much that you can do. " --- Sam Berns

I say " Firstly, be ok with what you ultimately can’t see because there is so much that you can see. "
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SarathW wrote:
No_Mind wrote:
SarathW wrote:I have seen super normal beings at least six time in my life. ( White smoke - sitting in my chair, coming out of a match box and coming our of my car's steering wheel)
I have heard at least two account of reliable people talking about similar things. ( in hospitals)
I still think it is some thing to do with the abnormality in my eyes. (I have a very good eye sight and do not ware specs)
HoweverI believe there are ghosts kind beings around us.
:shrug:
Ghost came out of you car's steering ? Sarath get your eyes checked asap.

There are no ghosts, no supernatural beings, no devas. They are creations of an over active mind.
Hi No-Mind
Benefit of the doubt goes to you.
:)
By the way I go a very good eye sight. Thanks to my mothers breast milk.
Without divulging my age I still can put a thread through a needle and I do not ware glasses.
:D
PS:
Yes it is pretty weird.
If it is a ghost, it was trying hard to send me the message. (not to doubt that ghost exist)
Well this is the proof.
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25098" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Taxi Drivers Claim Ghost Passengers in Japan


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Ghosts on the Underground!

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There is on going scientific research about: consciousness continues after clinical death, and brain does not create consciousness.





Our sense organs have very limited ranges, and science currently know nothing about what make up other ~95% the mass of the universe, let alone the immaterial plane. And in 5% that science currently know, there is still 70% of that 5% that remain unexplained.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... e-universe

So it would be extremely foolish and utterly ignorant to hold the materialist/annihilation view. So it is a good thing to at least set aside those matter and focus on the Four Noble Truths, or just have faith in the Buddha and his noble disciples, he's absolutely not a kind of person who would going to lie for whatever reason.
"Then the Teacher, being sympathetic, and having compassion for the whole world,
said to me, “Come, monk!” That was my ordination.
Staying alone in the wilderness, meditating tirelessly,
I have completed what the Teacher taught, just as the victor advised me.

In the first watch of the night, I recollected my past lives.
In the middle watch of the night, I purified my clairvoyance.
In the last watch of the night, I shattered the mass of darkness."
- KN Thag 12.2
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Aliens exist and may already be among us, says first British astronaut https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... aut-space/


“...Will they be like you and me, made up of carbon and nitrogen? Maybe not. It’s possible they’re right here right now and we simply can’t see them.”


Perhaps some of these aliens are actually "devas" or "asuras"...
"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
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Those I saw are black colored 3D shadow. I saw them only a few times in my life when I least expected them. It started only after a few years of consistent meditation practice.
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Ajahn Punnadhammo and Ajahn Sona brought up something quite interesting towards the end...
@ 32:04 - 33:40

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
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Lakkhanasamyutta and Petavatthu are more than enough for me to understand their existence.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
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