Can other religions contain eightfold path?

[Pulsar]

Mahabrahma wrote

Thank you so much, it's truly how I feel

It is always nice to read
expressed sweet sentiments, these have no cruelty, no ill-will.
The original teachings of Buddha says of feelings
"They are as transitory as shooting stars in the clear bright night sky"
Even though fleeting, it is quite a pleasant sight to watch, I think.
there is a small admonition, "Don't get hung up on feelings they are so
transitory"
With love
PS Our Buddha's take on feelings goes something like this...

Understanding feelings, and the origin of feelings,
Where they finally cease, and the path leading to their destruction
With the destruction of feelings
A bhikkhu is hunger less and fully quenched...

Do you have
any comments on this dear Mahabrahma

[SteRo]

All true paths lead to the same Enlightenment. There is only one Supreme Perfect Enlightenment. One Buddha mind.

Yes that's a popular theme: "all is one" and/or "all is the same".

That's certainly only an autosuggestion to suppress doubt about own path ... but it is certainly far from fact.

"All is one" is a generalization. I see the varieties between two atoms. And all isn't the "same", but Buddha is the Same Buddhahood given to all who achieve Supreme Perfect Enlightenment. That's what I'm getting at. And you're walking my path, too, if you're a Buddhist, whether you know it or not. It's called the Buddha way, and you've already achieved it.

I am not interested in "Supreme Perfect Enlightenment", so i am certainly not walking your path.

[Mahabrahma]

Mahabrahma wrote

Thank you so much, it's truly how I feel

It is always nice to read
expressed sweet sentiments, these have no cruelty, no ill-will.
The original teachings of Buddha says of feelings
"They are as transitory as shooting stars in the clear bright night sky"
Even though fleeting, it is quite a pleasant sight to watch, I think.
there is a small admonition, "Don't get hung up on feelings they are so
transitory"
With love
PS Our Buddha's take on feelings goes something like this...

Understanding feelings, and the origin of feelings,
Where they finally cease, and the path leading to their destruction
With the destruction of feelings
A bhikkhu is hunger less and fully quenched...

Do you have
any comments on this dear Mahabrahma

Who you are is Love, it goes deeper than just a feeling. Happiness and distress come and go like the seasons, summer and winter, and if you learn to tolerate their coming and going you will have a steady mind. However, cultivating Love is cultivating everything that you are, everything that matters, and what will truly last and make a difference in this world and in the one to come, because Love is all you can ever take with you, the rest will pass, but every bit of Love that you've had and felt has been real and life inspiring.

[Mahabrahma]

Yes that's a popular theme: "all is one" and/or "all is the same".

That's certainly only an autosuggestion to suppress doubt about own path ... but it is certainly far from fact.

"All is one" is a generalization. I see the varieties between two atoms. And all isn't the "same", but Buddha is the Same Buddhahood given to all who achieve Supreme Perfect Enlightenment. That's what I'm getting at. And you're walking my path, too, if you're a Buddhist, whether you know it or not. It's called the Buddha way, and you've already achieved it.

I am not interested in "Supreme Perfect Enlightenment", so i am certainly not walking your path.

Well you have Enlightenment deep within you already, it is the purpose of your life, and the purpose of Buddhism. You may have Transcended your desire for it, but the fact remains that it is what you will achieve, without a doubt.

[SteRo]

"All is one" is a generalization. I see the varieties between two atoms. And all isn't the "same", but Buddha is the Same Buddhahood given to all who achieve Supreme Perfect Enlightenment. That's what I'm getting at. And you're walking my path, too, if you're a Buddhist, whether you know it or not. It's called the Buddha way, and you've already achieved it.

I am not interested in "Supreme Perfect Enlightenment", so i am certainly not walking your path.

Well you have Enlightenment deep within you already, it is the purpose of your life, and the purpose of Buddhism. You may have Transcended your desire for it, but the fact remains that it is what you will achieve, without a doubt.

Well, you are free to fabricate what you want but honesty I don't care ...

[Mahabrahma]

You will never get to the point where I don't care about you . You are doing a fine job as a Buddhist, and more. Thank you.

[Lucas Oliveira]

The subject in this topic is not new here on the forum ..

has many similar topics ..

What is the difference between Theravada Buddhism and Mahayana Buddhism?

What is the difference between Buddhism and other religions?

What Teaching of the Buddha do you not have in other religions?

Doubt is one of the 5 obstacles.

Five hindrances

Doubt (vicikiccha): lack of conviction or trust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_hindrances

while this doubt continues .. we will continue practicing ..

[SteRo]

You will never get to the point where I don't care about you .

Feel free to care about me when I don't care about you. I don't mind.

You are doing a fine job as a Buddhist, and more. Thank you.

It's a pleasure.

[chownah]

Most of the time I forget the spaghetti monster people exist. They make Esperanto look valid.

Do note that the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion is not the same as the Eight Stranded Flying Spaghetti Monster religion....they are two seperate religions and this should always be remembered else confusion arise.

I am interested in whether you think that since the 8strdd flyg spgti mnstr religion contains the 8fldpath and its supports does this mean that the 8fdpth is found in another religion or does this means that the 8sttdflgspgtimnstr religion is a buddhist religion (based on your earlier post). Consider that there are lots of religions that contain the 8fldpath and are called "buddhist".
chownah

[Srilankaputra]

while this doubt continues .. we will continue practicing ..

[Inedible]

Neither. Spaghetti is just for cooking to me. Maybe in 50 or 100 years it can be a religion.

For that matter, I don't see Eckankar as a valid religion, either. They stole from Buddhism and Sufism.

[SteRo]

while this doubt continues .. we will continue practicing ..

If that's the case how should a practice based on doubt ever lead to the abandonment of doubt?

Oh wait ... Zen comes to this mind where they preach 'great doubt' as a means of practice. Obviously there are several kinds of doubt and one of these undermines practice and one of these supports practice.

But returning to the topic of this thread in the context of Zen: not all Zen teachers/practitioners would accept that their Zen is based on an eighfold path. So even within the area of what outside observers might call "buddhism" "eightfold path" isn't a commonly accepted concept for practice.

[SarathW]

Buddha said that it is ok to doubt him. (Kalama Sutta)
But he gave some suggestions to eliminate this doubt.

[Srilankaputra]

while this doubt continues .. we will continue practicing ..

If that's the case how should a practice based on doubt ever lead to the abandonment of doubt?

Purimā purimā akusalā dhammā pacchimānam pacchimānam kusalānam dhammānam kesanci upanissaya paccayena paccayo

[SteRo]

If that's the case how should a practice based on doubt ever lead to the abandonment of doubt?

Purimā purimā akusalā dhammā pacchimānam pacchimānam kusalānam dhammānam kesanci upanissaya paccayena paccayo

བྷྲཱུཾ་བི་ཤྭ་བི་ཤུད་དྷེ