Jesus is the Only Way?

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TRobinson465 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:03 am The Buddha being born before Jesus
the story says (in that case) one should believe in the eternal God
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cappuccino wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:00 pm
TRobinson465 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:03 am The Buddha being born before Jesus
the story says (in that case) one should believe in the eternal God
U mean the eternal god nobody knew about before jesus except one group of ppl in the middle east known as the jews?
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Pondera wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:24 am
Thank you. I appreciate the debunking.

@dhammacorps

I only bring this up as I find it extremely insulting. As a former Christian I am (apparently) still susceptible to the idea that “we believe in Jesus or we go to Hell”.
Although our society loves to dwell and even revel in how they have been insulted, I don't see the benefit to it personally (other than internal inquiry and investigation). Sure, religious bigots are acting unskillfully and with greed, hatred and delusion as their base. As Buddhists we have the teachings of morality, concentration and wisdom. Responding with outrage and amplifying the message of bigots probably just gives the bigots what they want, or at a minimum, shows your practice as unskillful too. :anjali:
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JamesTheGiant wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:50 pm Maybe an evil demon in the service of Mara gave the monk this vision, and brought him back to life. Mara would love for people to convert to Christianity.
I think you're on to something...
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TRobinson465 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:54 pm
cappuccino wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:00 pm
TRobinson465 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:03 am The Buddha being born before Jesus
the story says (in that case) one should believe in the eternal God
U mean the eternal god nobody knew about before jesus except one group of ppl in the middle east known as the jews?
good point
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There are over 1000 christian heaven visits.many outpouring of prophecy.many Jesus visitations.you guys will say this is Mara but we believe the buddhas visions like in mahayana and Vajrayana are demonic entities.also the Devas.when I converted to christianity from hinduism,the hindu gods started attacking me in sleep paralysis but jesus name always defeats them.

thats why you should look at the structure of said religion,and so far Theism has the scientific and philosophical upperhand imho.
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Tutareture wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:51 pm the scientific and philosophical upperhand imho.
Given your past performance on this page you seem to understand neither.
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Ceisiwr wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:54 pm
Tutareture wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:51 pm the scientific and philosophical upperhand imho.
Given your past performance on this page you seem to understand neither.
Quantum mechanics proves God,and at the very least Idealism.the unconditioned reality argument and 20 other arguments proves Gods existance.
keep believing in exnihilo creation,infinity of concrete things and births and Kshanabhanga.
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Tutareture wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am
Ceisiwr wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:54 pm
Tutareture wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:51 pm the scientific and philosophical upperhand imho.
Given your past performance on this page you seem to understand neither.
Quantum mechanics proves God,and at the very least Idealism.the unconditioned reality argument and 20 other arguments proves Gods existance.
keep believing in exnihilo creation,infinity of concrete things and births and Kshanabhanga.
Point proven.
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understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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Ceisiwr wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am
Tutareture wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am
Ceisiwr wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:54 pm

Given your past performance on this page you seem to understand neither.
Quantum mechanics proves God,and at the very least Idealism.the unconditioned reality argument and 20 other arguments proves Gods existance.
keep believing in exnihilo creation,infinity of concrete things and births and Kshanabhanga.
Point proven.
How?
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"Don't play chess with pigeons," said Coëmgenu with futility. They'll just knock the pieces off the board and defecate on the table. That's how a pigeon wins a game of chess. It's not their fault. They don't, can't, know any better. Yet isn't the very act of logging into an open web forum, with any and all manner of people present, consenting to chess with all the pigeons, no matter how many people might also be milling about?
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Coëmgenu wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:10 am That's how a pigeon wins a game of chess.
Don't let them win
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cappuccino wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:13 am
Coëmgenu wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:10 am That's how a pigeon wins a game of chess.
Don't let them win
How? By not sitting down to a game with one of them.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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Coëmgenu wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:15 am
cappuccino wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:13 am
Coëmgenu wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:10 am That's how a pigeon wins a game of chess.
Don't let them win
How? By not sitting down to a game with one of them.
At least I will win
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If I say, "and you have," does that make you a pigeon?

You don't need to answer if you don't want to. It was a purely rhetorical question. Anyways, I wish you well.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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