I'm sure that Jimmy Saville was specifically knighted for his contributions to British pedophilia.
That was sarcasm.
I'm sure that Jimmy Saville was specifically knighted for his contributions to British pedophilia.
Wheel turning monarch? Royal Propoganda,just like yourself.Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:38 pmHow else would you interpret the Wheel-Turning Monarch?
As far as I’m aware she isn’t a billionaire, but it wouldn’t matter to me if she was.Maybe mister Lewis forgot the Queen is a billionnaire with ill gotten gains. A hoarder of wealth. Who herself honours these athletes,film stars,millionaires,and paedophiles like Jimmy Saville with knighthoods etc,etc...
It was well known that Mr Saville was a paedo and nasty person.
A high priest hoarding wealth,promoting paedophiles,wars,colonialism.Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:38 pmHow else would you interpret the Wheel-Turning Monarch?
As far as I’m aware she isn’t a billionaire, but it wouldn’t matter to me if she was. Lewis’s point was the spiritual role the Monarch plays in society. All monarchs are essentially high priests or priestesses.Maybe mister Lewis forgot the Queen is a billionnaire with ill gotten gains. A hoarder of wealth. Who herself honours these athletes,film stars,millionaires,and paedophiles like Jimmy Saville with knighthoods etc,etc...
You’re consolidating intention of individuals based on a common external measure. I’m unwilling to accept that criteria as the most accurate way to discuss this topic. The dimension of class is secondary and therefore a less accurate means of understanding why a collection of laws, rules and practices increase the likelihood of certain people accumulating wealth. What is more accurate is to say that lack of wisdom, lack of virtue, lack of restraint and lack of awareness of the four noble truths is the reason why individuals sink.Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:11 pm Of course. Morality is always judged individually.
But it seems you are just special pleading or using whataboutism.
A class that justifies its obscence wealth and continues to strive for more is comprised of more immoral individuals. Surely you have been privy to the talk or mentality of the big business class?
It's always funny when I hear religious folks claim that criminality always comes from ignorance. More,specifically ignorance of the one special super religion. Do you not understand that many people rejoice in their criminality,they don't want to change at all.Their only fear is getting caught. Nothing to do with noble truths or them not finding jesus. You know even knowledgeable buddhist priests commit atrocities. Is that ignorance?SDC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:54 pmYou’re consolidating intention of individuals based on a common external measure. I’m unwilling to accept that criteria as the most accurate way to discuss this topic. The dimension of class is secondary and therefore a less accurate means of understanding why a collection of laws, rules and practices increase the likelihood of certain people accumulating wealth. What is more accurate is to say that lack of wisdom, lack of virtue, lack of restraint and lack of awareness of the four noble truths is the reason why individuals sink.Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:11 pm Of course. Morality is always judged individually.
But it seems you are just special pleading or using whataboutism.
A class that justifies its obscence wealth and continues to strive for more is comprised of more immoral individuals. Surely you have been privy to the talk or mentality of the big business class?
And yes, I have some hundred millionaire in-laws.
So you are not opposed to capitalism? It appears you are opposed to crony capitalism, which is a good position to take. Giving corporate welfare and no-bid contracts to cronies is not capitalism; it's just corruption. The Libertarians, which are the most laissez-faire capitalists were opposed to the government bail-outs of big banks during the great financial recession 2007-2012.
Again, it was the Libertarians, the capitalists who were opposed to the Gulf Wars and wars, in general (along with some others from other political viewpoints, but the point being that the capitalists were opposed to it).
Small business,trade, small service businesses,working your own small land plot for personal use are all brilliant. Owning your own house and small business is brilliant. I would just class this as small scale trade or commerce.DNS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:40 pmSo you are not opposed to capitalism? It appears you are opposed to crony capitalism, which is a good position to take. Giving corporate welfare and no-bid contracts to cronies is not capitalism; it's just corruption. The Libertarians, which are the most laissez-faire capitalists were opposed to the government bail-outs of big banks during the great financial recession 2007-2012.
Again, it was the Libertarians, the capitalists who were opposed to the Gulf Wars and wars, in general (along with some others from other political viewpoints, but the point being that the capitalists were opposed to it).
While most Americans were beating the war drum and approving G W Bush's war and no-bid contract to Haliburton, I was writing against the war, even though it was an unpopular position to take at the time (2003).
My impression is that capitalism is compatible with buddhism. There are however some buddhists who are conditioned by socialist ideas ... especially in the area of "engaged buddhism". Even though socialist ideas seem to be more popular in mahayanist circles I recall however having come across a writing of a thai theravada monk about "dhammic socialism" or similar.Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:12 pm Personally speaking I find buddhism and in fact any true spirituality to be diametrically opposed to any sort of capitalism.
Capitalism extols consumption and the profit motive,AKA Greed.
Whilst buddhism rejects greed and Instead focuses on true happiness.
Why are many buddhists still in favour of capitalism? Is the ruling class ideology still obscuring their thinking process?
No, not by divine right.
Now some being, Vāseṭṭha, of greedy disposition, watching over his own plot, stole another plot and made use of it. They took him and holding him fast, said: Truly, good being, thou hast wrought evil in that, while watching thine own plot, thou hast stolen another plot and made use of it. See, good being, that thou do not such a thing again! Ay, sirs, he replied. And a second time he did so. And yet a third. And again they took him and admonished him. Some smote him with the hand, some with clods, some with sticks. With such a beginning, Vāseṭṭha, did stealing appear, and censure and lying and punishment became known.
Now those beings, Vāseṭṭha, gathered themselves together, and bewailed these things, saying: From our evil deeds, sirs, becoming manifest, inasmuch as stealing, censure, lying, punishment have become known, what if we were to select a certain being, who should be wrathful when indignation is right, who should censure that which should rightly be censured and should banish him who deserves to be banished? But we will give him in return a proportion of the rice.
Then, Vāseṭṭha, those beings went to the being among them who was the handsomest, the best favoured, the most attractive, the most capable and said to him: Come now, good being, be indignant at that whereat one should rightly be indignant, censure that which should rightly be censured, banish him who deserves to be banished. And we will contribute to thee a proportion of our rice.
And he consented, and did so, and they gave him a proportion of their rice.
Chosen by the whole people, Vāseṭṭha, is what is meant by Mahā Sammata; so Mahā Sammata (the Great Elect) was the first standing phrase to arise [for such a one].
https://legacy.suttacentral.net/en/dn27
Only foolish ones will put exclusive blame on any system, ism or ideology.